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  • A partir dos 3:30 parei, que não valia a pena ver mais. Trata-se de uma "explicação" que se perde em demasiados pormenores irrelevantes ao mesmo tempo que não menciona outros fundamentais. Porque é que se divaga sobre o facto da divisão das duas Alemanhas em 1949 não ter sido feita em duas metades iguais quando se omite que essa divisão teria que mostrar que o que se havia repartido havia sido a Alemanha com as fronteiras de 1937, que era muito maior do que aquilo que se mostra no mapa? A área do território antigamente alemão cedido à Polónia e à Rússia é praticamente idêntico ao ocupado pela Alemanha Oriental.

  • Big THUMBS DOWN!!!!! COMMIE VIDEO!!!

  • Holy fucking shit the anthem of east Germany is one of the best god damn anthems I've ever heard.

  • The soviet union made the area they controlled (DDR east Germany) pay a lot more repetitions and debts towards the Soviet Union. The west didn't have to pay as much debts and reparations to their allied occupiers. Eastern Germany cities were also some of the most effected cities from the war and from the bombings etc.

  • Cool anti western propaganda video, 4/10

  • "no nation wants to be split' is the foundation philosophy of Fascism, Italian and German Fascism both emerged form the Italian and German unification movements of the 19th Century. A Socialist should know better then to say something like that. Communism is actually far more viable under local City-States.

    Also Stalin basically let East Germany be run for former Nazis, Stalin was a Fascist who infiltrated Bolshevism and went to war with Hitler because their interests conflicted not because of ideology.

  • I agree with the Geography part, but not the latter.

  • Boi gonna explain this videon in one word….

    Communism

  • DDR didn't participate in the Marshall Plan because the USSR didn't want

  • bullshit again

  • This guy is wrong big time. East Germans left for the west to get away from the communist bullshit….the ddr was so great that they shot people trying to leave. This guy wants to talk about bullshit??? Admit it Skippy you're a member of antifa!!!! Obviously since his best source is a communist herself. Btw…..go live in Cuba or North Korea and tell me how glorious those shitholes are!!!! I also can't help but notice how he left out how the Soviets crushed the June uprising in East Berlin…caused by the oppression and appalling living conditions imposed by the commies…..then there was Hungary 1956….. Czechoslovakia 1968….. Afghanistan 1979 and numerous proxy wars in Africa. Even Ceausecu of Romania frequently criticized Moscow because of these invasions the USSR took part again against fellow communist countries. Can't blame the west for that… sorry. Even East Germany at the last moment decided not to take part in the 1968 invasion of Czechoslovakia. Class dismissed!!!

  • Sounds more like communist propaganda to me buddy.

  • Why was East Germany so 'Poor'?

    —–> communism

  • Yikes communists in the comments defending DPRK. Lmao but none of you would live there.

  • North Korea had way more than South Korea in the beginning. And foreign Communist nations backing it. South Korea adopted the Capitalist system and flourished.

  • Honestly, this is just a socialist wank… This is overly bias and probably made by a socialist…
    edit: Damn worse… its made by a communist…

  • it's not true socialism because there was no violent revolution… delusional moron

  • I could only hear socialist excuses for failure, I bet he's going to use opposite assertions for South korea.

  • So you dislike West Germany for offering free apartments and money for specialists fleeing East Germany?

  • there are some wrong conclusions and wrong assumptions: some of the "hightech" industries of 1945 whre located in the east especially in Berlin (Elektronics, chemical industry) and Saxony (Car manufacturers). Bavaria on the other hand was then a very poor and undeveloped region. it got money from the other parts of germany for a very long time. Same is true for publishing and banking and assurance companies. They all relocated from Berlin/Saxony to Bavaria, and Frankfurt after 1945. East germany was a very big failture because the socialist planing was in every matter the wrong direction.

  • Ostdeutschland war Scheiße, lebe Westdeutschland!!

  • It's true that many people who lived under soviet rule believed their nation was better than it was bad, but you must also take into consideration that most of the citizens never knew of another way of life. Young citizens especially had little to no knowledge about the western world, and many of them never even thought about the idea that there is such a place. They were living around communist propaganda, and they were under a country's rule without a choice.

  • East Germany was poor beacuse they lose the old german territority Silesia (lot of industry) and the harbour Stettin, Swinemünde

  • SHORT ANSWER "COMMUNIST"

  • This guy is either a bias or extremely mistaken he said the 30 years of previous trouble was due to corruption of land lord (Stalinist view) when these land lord supported Russian agricultural and its when Stalin collectivised the farms was when mass famines occur and he just skips over government mistreatment and a government sanctioned purge and deportation of millions which wouldn’t of help the growth

  • People are missing the point of this video. This video is meant to show how it's not really fair to directly compare East and West Germany due to different historical and geographic reasons (as well as squashing some East German myths).

  • Thank you for the excellent response to the "bullshit!" callers.

  • You don't need to live in a rich country to be happy. You don't even need to be rich to be happy. Money is not my favorite topic.

  • The dangers of a single story……. by chimamanda Ngosi Adiche

  • Why was East Germany poor ??? Because there are different concepts of what 'poverty' is ! In terms of education, healthcare, housing free from speculation, abundance of jobs, affordable transport systems and prices in restaurants for everyone it was not poor at all. It was just lacking a bit of paint on the walls. The people and families lived all together excellently – contrary to today.

  • Compared to Portugal, Spain, Southern Italy Southern France, Greece, Middle England or Ireland East Germany was a paradise for the ordinary people.

  • East Berlin is so great that they build a giant wall and shot anyone who defected and escaped just like North Korea.
    In all seriousness no one defected to East Germany and no one defected to North Korea for a reason.

  • This video is just a long-winded excuse for why communism always fails.

  • 15:40 43% thought it was bad

    Seems pretty bad

  • Communism made it poor.

  • because communism

  • One word: communism. Communism sucks.

  • https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/26/communists-capitalism-stalinism-economic-model

  • You tried to speak german names but failed.

  • Is this even a question? Communism!

  • Simple anwser: Communism.

  • Tankies really aren't the smartest bunch are they?

  • You just looking for excuses ! Communism is the guarantee of poverty. Simple.

  • Expected bashing of socialism, got praise instead. 8K butthurt people

  • Socialism promotes the worst qualities in humans. Anyone who is pro socialism is pro degeneration of the human species.

  • You are poor minded if you put this clickbait title for anticommunist people…

  • Am I the only Fascist who doesn't see much if any issues with the video?
    Anyway, well made vid. Prolly paradoxical for me to be on the same page with you but yeah

  • Take to the streets comrades. We need a revolution. Nothing less will fix this crapfest of a world. Yay crapitalism.

  • I wish the DDR reunified Germany

  • History is written by the victor.

    Thank you for actually respecting there was another perspective.

  • It was communist. next question.

  • Can we call a spade a spade. It was a terrible system and doomed from the start. I wish we could get an honest critique of Russia and the USSR. It had some successes and failure. But in the end, it failed. Take a look and learn from the mistakes.

    Russia doomed itself by completely shutting all markets. It should have allowed for development of local shops and small businesses. And allowed for to generate wealth. Heavy planning was needed but it went overboard.

  • Excellent video.
    The reparations that the DDR had to pay consisted in a large in the form of heavy industrial equipment which East German factory workers were forced to dismantle themselves for it to then be carted off to the USSR.

  • Egalitarian system tend to form a cast of corrupt officials, The Russians placed them in charge of administrative positions and the Chinese in the cemetery.

  • Vietnam was economicaly in bloched and cut out from World banking system for 75 years if I'm not wrong. The blocked ended about 20 years age.

  • I guess the reactionary chuds got to this one

  • ok so the east was the poorest section of Germany and the west sucked up all the good h, jobs, and intellectuals but USSR wasent supposed to occupy east Berlin indefinately anyway. why not withdraw from the region like the West did? afterall they still had Poland Yugoslav and Romania for buffers? staying in a bombed out strech of land and building a wall around it for the west to gawk at helps no one

  • I think there's a good argument in here, but it's concealed behind a lot of revisionist nonsense

  • Thank you for that very differenciated view on the German Divide. When i ask people from the East German diaspora they tend to glorify the GDR and to do the opposite thing with "the West". When i asked people from West Germany the do it vice versa. But you talked about every problem of the bipolar parties equally, without glorifying one or the other. What nobody knows is: The capitalism tends to even reward its greatest critics. Without saying that this or this economic system is good or bad, the glorification of the free market is a huge weakness of its own. The non-existant reflection of the system itself is not good for the inflation problems we are heading in the future. Not that we have to face other problems like climate change and globalization. But, duh, thats another story. It was a very relaxing experience to either have heard the positive things of the GDR as it was to to hear the critics of both sides. Because in german schools we are only tought of the positive sides of "the West". It is quite complicated to speak about that topic on my own. I will stop now. THX

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  • So country EVERY did good under communism. Every communist country is a shithole.

  • Reasons why I hate East German government: These little fucktards and pieces of pure dipshit destroyed our capital’s historic center. Sorry for the language but there’s no excuse for that.

  • The GDR was a totalitarion diktatorship, the West was a democratic Republik. Ist was Not much better than the nazi Diktatorship, the stasi was the biggest Security Agency in the world and it was only for Spionage their own People. East german economy was bullshit, if you wanted to buy a car, you have to wait 18 years until you get it

  • Уебищный автор о чем тут говорится

  • This was a very interesting video that gives more perspective about the post-war situation in Europe. I wish I had been given a more balanced, thoughtful education. I grew up in the 60's and 70's and learned about "The Iron Curtain" (bum-bum-bum… *shudder*). And how horrible it was over there, etc. etc. I figured most people living there must have been 3-headed gargoyles, spouting Commie propaganda. Then I met some Polish people. They actually seemed… human. But still, the pinnacle of Iron Curtainness were the East Germans. The Poles wanted freedom- they were Catholic after all, and never bought into that atheistic commie bs- But the East Germans, now there were some proper commies. Then at work I met an East German programmer. One day I asked him what in his view was the biggest difference living in East Germany vs. the West. I'm expecting talk about how horrible it was to live under the Stasi, or how they could barely afford their next meal. Instead, he told me "I really miss the sense of community." Blew my mind. People are people, wherever you go, and things are never black and white.

  • In 1950 East Germany had 18 millions and West had 50 millions what is 1/3 of population and also had 1/3 of land so you can't say that was not so populated. Industry in the area of Saxony was before the war as strong as in the area of Westphalia.Cities like Leipzig, Dresden and Chemnitz are still smaller than before the war. Why? A lot of people migrated to the west because of better conditions!

  • My dad visited East berlin in June of 1989, which was before the wall fell. He said that when compared to west germany DDR was poor. However, he said that still people lived well, there was food, housing was good, most people owned a car (even if it was a shitty Trabant), and although consumer goods were lacking it wasn't as bad as people said. In fact he brought back some books and two records, both of which American music, memphis slim and led zepellin. Overall he said that the quality of life, economically speaking, was very similar to the one in his country, Portugal, a relatively capitalistic country of Western Europe.
    However, still there was evidence of it being a disfunctional economy. In the Alexanderplatz he was able to chamge 1 western mark for 10 ddr marks, when the official rate was 1 to 1. And he found a lot of people using their trabants to illegaly drive tourists around the city, risking their freedom for some western marks.
    Still he didnt feel like the country was economically chaotic, as in fact clearly people had a decent standard of living. This is of course economically. When it comes to political freedom it's a much different story

  • on top of all this poor geography and economics, the country was also socialist – – double fucked by time and place

  • This vid was absolutely shit, sorry man but never go full tankie

  • I feel about 20 minutes Dumber.
    The Narrative and the comparisons in this video are completely flawed. As for people who thought communism was better. I guess I can understand that considering everything is paid for by a state who doesn't have the money.

  • Well okay, remember the geography. Let's split Germany into thirds with East Germany (DDR), West Germany and South Germany (Two halves of BRD). The one with the best balance between agriculture and industry, least damage suffered from war, and lowest reparations was… The East. Really, the only reason the BRD did better was because of how the economy was managed

  • Long story short. Communism

  • Patreon = home of agitprop.

  • Ah, the good old days! (nostalgia is just not what it used to be!) Not knowing that Bonn was the capital, not knowing that the USSR was going to overtake the USA in wealth by 1970, not knowing that the east was about 90% the level of the west before the war but about 30% at re-unification, etc, etc. Talk about selective editing!

  • Many of these claims seem rather spurious…

  • Pretty decent video, thank u

  • A good exposure of the Politics that tarnished the Germans after WW2. A single nation reduced to East / West factions. What Germany had B4 WW2 exploded was the envy of the World. The West was stuffed. Most of Europe & and US were dependent on soup kitchens. When Hitler went to war he didn't even bother cranking up Industrial output such was the size of it. It was in 43 that slave workers starting pouring into Germany and elsewhere to bolster the war effort. By then the Germans had 9 million employees from all fields in Jack Boots.
    The divisions of the Germans will eventually lead to the Federal breakup of this country. It was Kingdoms and Principalities until the late 1800's. It was Hitler that formed the German peoples into a unified political force. Today West Germans have zero time for the money sponging East. These Communists who are really only German speaking Soviets are not and never will be West Germans. Money will not save East Germany. It's a basket case designed by the Allies to keep them useless and they are. I wish the Germans would turn Neutral like the Swiss and exit the sick propaganda machine about the East and the West. $50B Euro's buys a lot of beers and parties. Germans have seen what war is. I doubt they'll ever revisit that road again.

  • Bbbbbut but but benzezaula

  • was? it is still compared to the western regions

  • Neo commie propaganda going hi tek

  • Most of the 'facts' given in this video are simply wrong and do not stand the most basic level of historical research. I pity because the basis ideas is interesting.

  • WEST GERMANY BANKERS RAN EAST GERMANY COMMUNISM IS RAN BY THE BIG MONOPOLY BANKERS

  • North Korea vs. South Korea
    East Germany vs. West Germany
    Mainland China vs. Hong Kong and Taiwan

    Examples are plenty. Capitalism may suck, but it doesn't suck as much as Socialism. Most Socialist countries histories can be summarized like this:

    1. Socialist revolution
    2. Dismantling of capitalism
    3. Shortages and starving
    4. Reverting Socialist policies or emulating capitalist ones just to get by for a little longer, adopting complex solutions to tackle absurdly stupid problems Socialists created
    5. Being replaced by old school crony capitalism

  • This guy sounds like a Soy Boy incel

  • Heck off, commie.

  • What do you understand by 'poor'? Lack of consumerism, lack of culture, lack of exploitation in treadmills, lack of educational opportunities, lack of healthcare, lack of affordable rents, lack of …..???

  • debunk this please: https://youtu.be/85ijB0q33Rk

  • Thank you so much for this video.

  • Lol, typical English person’s mixture to ‘England’ and ‘Britain’. Not the same thing, as every idiot knows.

  • Oh your example fails with Korea. The north has far more resources than the south

  • I am from Romania, a country that refused to trade even with its fellow eastern block nations. Socialism industrialized our country and made the unemployment rate extremely low. Before the world wars we were a rural, already poor society. If we had been industrialized, educated and prosperous like the French, for example, socialism wouldn't have been blamed for poverty.
    Today's Europe is a mix of the capitalist free market economy and humanist socialist regulations. What brought the eastern block nations to a drop in employment and GDP after 1990 wasn't their socialist economy but COMMUNISM. Under a communist regime people had a restricted acces to information, they were never thaught entrepreneurship, how to be flexible and creative and how to manange their money. It was, basically, a regression from enlightnenment. Therefore when faced with freedom and responsability the population couldn't cope Taking these rights and freedoms away is not a characteristic of socialism, but of authoritarian COMMUNIST regimes.
    Socialism can prosperously work hand in hand with a free market economy. Easter states were poor because they already were before the instalation of communist socialist regimes and the Western World also sabotaged their economy.
    Every regime and economic/political systems has its flaws. The overly capitalist American society is not self sufficient, its consumering destroying its own environment and hurting its population while an overly socialist system with a communist regime brings a decrease in freedoms and performance of workers.

  • Interesting perspective. It is interesting how you used the term "looked after" in the closing moments of the video. In his book "Behind the Wall: The Inner life of Communist East Germany" Hans-Joachim Maaz fairly comprehensively describes how the wholesale infantilization millions of people limited and curtailed their psychological development, leading to endemic psychophysiological problems that he saw in his clinic. Nor is he under any illusions about the problems in the west, which have only worsened in the intervening years. I cannot get behind the idea that communism is the answer, because it so drastically reduces its citizens capacity to achieve full psychological selfhood, and yet I also agree that rampant capitalism's creation of a culture in which citizens' only value lies in their purchasing power is equally as destructive. Maaz is right (I think), when he argues at the end of the book is it is only psychological revolution that truly sets us free and, although it is perhaps equally utopian, suggests that we need to engender a culture of psycho-analysis in which people are able to put aside limiting values and beliefs, and learn to responsibly and sustainably look after themselves.

  • "East Germany was supported by the West to export" what?! Investment in supply and supply side policy doesn't stimulate demand you idiot. The producing "bread basket" of the East clearly had a share over respective markets to sell their goods otherwise the East would've collapsed anyway due to going bust over having to sell at ridiculously low prices or not selling at all. Monetarists, Keynesians or economic Socialists would argue that such a situation is unsustainable. Stop acting like you know what you're on about

  • This was biased

  • They had Morten Lund as an advisor.

  • Ok, cool. Thank you for this 21 minute long video of anti-capitalist propaganda.

  • PLEASE DELETE THIS VIDEO!!

    Dear BadMouse, your video is so full of historical inaccuracies, misleading and partial facts, false equivalences and relativations. You bring up some valid aspects, that hindered east-german economic developments. Like braindrain, reparations to the Soviets, no Marshall Plan equivalent, a smaller underdeveloped export market. However, it is oversimplified to say that West-Germany was main industrial center, while the East was agriculturally dominated. Actually Saxony and Berlin were big industrial hubs as well. And furthermore, the whole of Germany was absolutely wrecked by allied bombing, not just eastern cities. But what annoys me the most, is how you completely fail to mention the failure of the socialist economic system as such. No word about the staggering inefficiencies, corruption, mismanagement, environmental pollution, that this state-run system produced. To keep the economy going and in desperate attempts to grow and reform it, the DDR took loans from the West. But it never managed to actually do so. All of it was essentially wasted and by the end of the 1980s, the country was heading for bankruptcy. West vs East Germany is like North vs South Korea the best example to show how much better capitalism is in creating wealth. East Germany was a terribly poor country compared to the West. You had to wait ten years for a car, buying groceries meant waiting in line in front of the store for hours, by 1990 only a minority of households had phone line which usually you had to share with your neighbors, coloured TVs were rarity, and so were other things that we would regard as natural like Bananas or Chocolate.
    Yes, there was no unemployment in the DDR, but only because this was a matter of pride for the regime. What would happen very often is that workers would have to show up for their full shift, but there was simply nothing to do. Often because of lacking raw materials. So they would work for maybe two hours and play football for the rest of their shift.
    By the way, your video is also poorly structured and ridiculously sourced. But what really offends me are your rationalizations of the Berlin Wall. If you will ever actually make it to Germany (which I will just presume you have never even visited, only by the amount of basic errors pointed out in other comments) go to Berlin and try to comprehend the gross inhumanity of the Wall. It was only and entirely designed to hold the Germans hostage in a country that they might want to leave. It is so abhorrent that you don't even mention the Schießbefehl (order to shoot, meaning that guards to had shoot everyone trying to flee to the West), but at the same time come up with stupid reasoning like: well I mean noone would like it if their capital was split in half you gotta understand. WTF?!?! This wall was never built for protection, it was only to imprison its own population. The DDR leadership even erected Selbstschussanlagen (essentially MG's firing automatically if someone walked into the Todesstreifen (death zone)) and then used their existence to pressure West-Germany to grant them loans. Meaning we will stop having MG's automatically firing at our own people, if you give us money. Also the argument of the wall as protection against sabotage is complete nonsense. West Germans were actually very welcome to visit the DDR, because of the money they would spent there.

    I suggest you go visit Berlin once and go see the memorial of the Mauertoten, and think very carefully about what you have said here in this video.

  • Western Centrist Rants has respond to your video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIC8tRPft3Y

  • So many dislikes but rarely do they realize capitalism has caused more deaths than socialism.

  • I wonder if we add The Eastern Regions of the Old German Empire (Pomerania, Silesia, Danzig, The Current Kaliningrad, etc.) To East Germany, West Germany would be overcome economically and populationally by its Eastern counterpart?

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