History Summarized: Iroquois Native Americans

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  • To clarify the origin of the Constitution section, there is very much a strong kernel of truth to it, but it is somewhat exaggerated. When Benjamin Franklin was writing up his version of the Articles of Confederation (please don't confuse this with the Articles of Confederation that were actually put in place), he was HEAVILY inspired by the Iroquois. That is, in fact, why he used the word Confederation. Franklin's Confederation was, however, rejected. The articles of Confederation that we briefly operated under did very little to unite us as a nation. Actually, the vagueness concerning certain issues, and the lack of power to enforce others, led to border conflicts between some of the states. When the Constitution was created, that document borrowed from some of the framework that Franklin had designed, which means that some of the Iroquois influence would have been carried over. That would have been combined with the strong influence of the British Parliamentary model as well. So, yes, the structure of the Iroquois Confederation did play a vital role in the formation of the American system of government, but it wasn't anything close to being a copy of it.

  • I don’t expect a lot (or anyone) to read this…but:

    I understand that this is a video about the Iroquois, and this comment is not meant to disrespect the Iroquois as I truly do appreciate there history, but to say that the Iroquois were the “real bones of the US government” is a bit of a bold claim. The reason as I say this is because this topic is disputed amongst historians, and to suggest this claim as fact would be rather disingenuous. Furthermore, to propose that Roman influence on the US government is merely just “aesthetic” is just plain false.

    I don’t normally comment on videos, so if anyone is reading this, please don’t hate me. I’m honestly interested in the notion that the Iroquois confederation influenced the US government, as this idea was never taught to me and is new. But hey, if your reading this, I would like to here your thoughts. Anyways, have a nice day👍

  • I disagree on one thing. We will not fight with Yu-Gi-Oh…Magic the Gathering.

  • Just to be absolutely correct, you got the names of the five nations out of order. At 1:55 -ish you needed to say Mohawk, Oneida, Onondaga…..rather than Mohawk, Onondaga, Oneida…you just transposed two nations. No big deal.

  • The "Beaver Wars" can be characterized as a competition for resources – but it can also be accurately described as a proxy war between colonial France and England. The colonial powers encouraged their Native allies to interfere with other native peoples trade and commerce and as a result, war erupts.

  • Onondaga were in center.

  • Iroquois are mostly from Quebec Canada tho.

  • I would love a movie about this culture

  • Thank you for providing a history of an interesting people. I enjoyed it and am glad someone is teaching history.

    You should have mentioned that the Iroquois kept slaves, waged aggressive wars, tortured prisoners of war and were cannibals. Not because it attacks this culture but because:
    a) that's history and the omission leaves your history incomplete and biased.
    b) I am sick of every other culture's history getting whitewashed while Europeans' crimes get highlighted as if only we committed such atrocities. For instance, EVERY culture practiced slavery. Because we don't teach the ugly parts of a culture's history young people think slavery was invented by white people.

  • You make it hard to trust you because you inject your weak-minded effeminate beliefs and mix it with what might be history.

    And in spite what the sitting Congress did in 1988, the US Constitution is modeled after a work by Pelatiah Webster.

    So right there, by 5:10, you reveal your historical stupidity or incessant virtue-signaling propaganda.

    So yeah, your video is shit, dude, and so is your mind.

  • Ben Franklin was just being sarcastic, when he chided the colonies that even the savage Iroquois had figured out how to do such and such a thing together. The actual influences on the American Constitution were the confederacies from Greece to Switzerland studied by Madison, plus the accrued tradition of British Constitutional Development, and the political theories of the Enlightenment in Europe, notably Hume with his essays on factionalism and on a perfect confederal republic.

  • Nothing stirs the boys up like a shortage of beaver.

  • That longhouse is to long for me!

  • WHAT MOTHER EARTH?!?!?! WHAT THE FREAK

  • (sighs)what ever:(

  • yeah has a point…

  • but if we play Yu-Gi-Oh all the time then there will be a lot of people in the shadow realm
    I think that we should just send people we don't like to the next dimension

  • Hey what are your sources?

  • [spoiler] They aren't fucking natives. They came here and massacred the people who were here before them, then attempted to massacre those who came after them and got their asses handed to them.[/spoiler]

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  • I’m a Iroquois

  • 3:39
    Thank for acknowledging that that's what tends to happen, and not some patriarchal conspiracy.

  • And again. Greed destroyed it all. That is depressing.

  • Why are we glorifying a tribal people who decided not to butcher each other? I think the Persians,Chinese and the Ancient Greeks did it better 2000-3000 years before the Indians and lets not forget that the Indians not 500 years ago practiced human sacrifice on a level which no human nation have seen upon that time.

    Also why do the COLONISTS American are considered bad when ALL FACKING NATIONS DID WHAT THEY DID LONG BEFORE THEM. Mongols, Alexander the Great, Attila, Chinese, The Persians , The Romans, FUCKING FRENCH NAPOLEON and the middle American Indians them SELF practice conquest. Then why do we judge the Americans while not putting them on equal standing with the previously spoken of.

  • I don't want to be the one who goes against the popular oppinion but If anything the colonists were IMPRESSED at how easy the Iroquoi adapted to technology and particularly firearms since they were the best shooters amongst the Native American peoples. They were not considered primitive at all specially when comparing them to other Native Americans such as the then allegedly bloodthirsty savages such as the Secotans and Croatans that evaporated the colony of Roanoke Colony off the face of the Earth, just not quite yet at the level of the Europeans. And by the end of the American revolution Thomas Jefferson who had massive interest in Native American culture had a particularly strong interest in the Iroqoi.

  • The sad ending of the Iroquois really frustrates me and saddens me. Now I love the American Revolution simply because its a great time period, BUT I will admit that the Colonists acted like jerks before, during and after the American Revolution. The Colonists wanted to expand and move and screw ANYONE OR ANYTHING that got in their way Native Americans included. The British were just trying to protect them, and get more money cause they were recently in a lot of wars recently. Seeing videos like these just bums me out, cause it really hammers out the fact that the land we stand on today was paved over blood. Finally, its also because of videos like these that reaffirms my support of the Native Americans and doing everything we can to make up for all the terrible things that were done to them.

  • The Seneca were the local tribe in my area.

  • you are such an arse… a condescending arse. i ws hoping to find out something about my father and you…. you do this sung song bull shit history of an amazing culture that saved the colonists that turned on their saviours.just fu

  • The US owes the natives monetary reparations, and sovereign control of their lands without fear or annex or exploitation or unwelcome development.

  • Love this stuff. It is probable that communism came about due to these guys. They were studied by Morgan then Marx then Engels.

  • Does anybody really give a shit about their gender equality?

  • Lmao lacrosse was and is an extremely violent game, sometimes played to the death.

  • It seems the founding fathers of the united states took ideas from about every democracy and republic that came before them.

  • Deus vult

  • "I look forward to when world wars are fought through Yugioh Duels"

  • I know the Assassin's Creed 3 part is a joke and the game is okay and its history accuracy isn't 100% nor terrible…still, it's pretty interesting for Ubisoft to have a Native American protagonist and delve into the Iroquois in a game about the American Revolution. The Iroquois is often left out from almost any fiction (movie, TV, game) about the American Revolution, and I think AC3 is a first for me…

  • Can we get of Native American tribes videos and their influence on America to be?

  • As a Iroquois from the Mohawk nation, this was really nice to come across and I enjoyed watching it. We also mostly refer to ourselves as ‘Onkwehonwe’ (roughly pronounced Oon-gway-hoon-way) People of the Flint. Thanks for taking the time to share part of my culture and history!

  • It’s pronounced as Ee-row-kwa not Ee-row-koi, also Iroquois is of French origin

  • Watching this after seeing the Assassin's Creed 3 Remastered trailer.

    The algorithm is strong with one…

  • If we did get to the point we use yu gi oh to fight battles
    I will win because I have a man eater bug card

  • Wow never knew about most of this.

  • There was a episode in yugioh gx where the military was transporting a card shipment, if wars were fought with yugioh , that would be the hilarious reality

  • What's the music at the end?

  • While your at it you REALLY gotta cover the Potawatomi, Shawnee, Algonquin history. Its just as interesting

  • too bad George Washington was infamous for burning down 28 of 30 Seneca cities and was known as "town burner" by the Iroquois

  • Three Fires Treaty is better than Iroquois! You cannot change my mind,

  • Nooo I’m talking about Algonquian for my project not the Iroquois

  • 98% Irish/English European and 2% Iroquois American…Guess who my favorite Native tribe is! 😂

  • Historia Civilis's
    Video on the Iroquois Constitution is great check it out.

  • Well, actually that map isn't entirely accurate, Seneca Territory stretches over a much larger west amount of land. I live in a country called Chautauqua (shuh-tawk-kwuh), which in Seneca means "where the fish came in" and has always been owned by the Seneca nation. Seneca Territory actually stretches from Erie County to Chautauqua, to Cattaraugus County and even farther by some accounts. If you just move everything you put on that map a little more West and stretch some of the territory lines it would be more accurate.

  • I'm confused. I thought that the 5 or 6 nations was huge. And partly in Canada – I live on 'Mohawk Road' which I always assumed that they actually lived on the land until we (well, at the time, the Brits) took it away from them.

    Speaking of England not caring that much about treaties, how about the War of 1812? I'm interested in your take on that.

  • Great video – especially for the high-school and up crowd! I would love a 'clean' and simplified version for younger students.

  • Following the formation
    Of the confederation
    And the implementation
    Of peace through the nation

  • For the reference, Stickball is nothing like Lacrosse today. Anything and everything not lethal was cool beans. It was like that Japanese pole defense attack sport thing where they just kick and charge

  • Ac3 music ;-;

  • I'm so glad I clicked on this. I didn't know about them! I wonder how today's Iriquois (Iriquese? Iriquoisans?) are doing.

  • WHERE. ARE. YOU. POINTING. IN. 9:48 . THE ACTUAL FUCK.

  • Thank you so much for covering this! Don’t learn much of any Native American history here in England so I’m only just learning, and I’m fascinated!

  • If the US Government is based off of the Iroquois Confederacy, then they did an absolutely awful job at it.

  • I would like to contest the idea that the British were “oppressive” to the yanks.

  • Iroquois: makes a confederation with 5 nations via oral constitution.
    Congress: makes the United States with 50 states via written constitution.
    Iroquois: PLAGIARISMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!

  • I CHALLENGE YOU TO A D-D-D-D-D-DUEL!

  • Playing the civ V new world senario as a native American is scary

  • To this day one of THE most prized goods is beaver fur. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  • Came from blue's top 5 domes. And I see top 1 Duomo? the frame….

  • Being from upstate New York, I found this particularly interesting! Thanks for another great video!

  • How America was brought into WW 2 (Hitler) I play unrestricted sub warfar (sinks American boat) (America) HA! You activated my trap card (trap card is diclar war)

  • Hey Blue you should check out what happened with the tribes in Wisconsin. They actually got a Treaty signed and though it was partially ignored for most of U.S. history but in the mid to late 1900s they were able to get some of their traditional practices enforced and protected by state and federal law. Its actually really cool to see what they did

  • Do one on the history of the Huron Indians!

  • Their Long House look like Marsh Arab in Iraq

  • Love how you put in AC3 lol. I'm half Mohawk!!

  • This is an amazing video, but I am compelled to point out that those are actually ostriches in that Emu War image

  • Revisionist nonsense. The idea that the founding fathers took inspiration from people who never invented writing or the wheel is one no serious historian supports.

  • Niawenko for this, it's great to see accurate information that some people probably never got to learn about. I'm half Mohawk/half Oneida so I grew up learning about this.

  • I'm curious, what source did 200 years later Congress use to verify that?

  • Even less known is the history of the Algonquin native Americans. Even downstate in former Algonquin territory, we learn about the Iroquois instead

  • …So th emu war was against beavers?

  • Maybe the founders patterned American democracy on the Iroquois, or maybe this IS just revisionism. I have not doubt that Congress would have made the claim for "sensitivity" issues.

    I don't think the Americans gave much of a shit about Iroquoian governance–right or wrong. But I think the example of Greek democracy and Roman republicanism were probably more a part of the European consciousness.

    My point is… we can't know. And stories about Iroquois being squirreled away upstairs while the Constitution was being drafted… just reeks of mythos more than fact.

    Maybe it happened. Maybe it didn't. It's beyond conjecture… because there are people who want to advance the narrative for political purposes.

    Sensitivity and emotionalism becomes their holy objective.

  • Lacross is actually Canadas national sport

  • Its weird to watch a video on stuff I ACTUALLY learned in school…weird

  • Iroquois are my absolutely favourite American peoples

  • Jesuits are the assassins behind the suffering and deaths of the French Indian Wars.

  • So basically, America and the Brits ruin everything again? Like they did with every single other culture on EARTH?

  • "It gets cold in the winter"
    Laughs in German
    We literally have 40°C (104°F) summers combined with -30°C winters (-22°F).
    All rounded off with rains that can, continously, last longer than three weeks, droughts that can span up to two trimesters, storms with over 120 mph winds and up to baseball sized hail. And that's all within a nation half the size of Texas.
    I can't actually fathom how some stone age people came here and were like "This is a nice place to settle!" – no, it's fucking not!

  • Hilarious how the Europeans considered these people savages and they basically abolished war and set up working communist utopias

  • Everything changed when the British Nation attacked…

  • How "bothersome" were the French and Spanish to the Native peoples of the lands that were Florida, the Louisiana purchase and the western part of what became the US? I almost forgot the Russians and their holdings in the area that comprised Alaska.

  • You should do a similar video on the Comanche Empire. I recently read "Empire of the Summer Moon", and it was a great breakdown of how the horse lords of the southern plains rose, fell, and I reacted with the westward expansion of Mexico, Texas, and the US.

  • I'm not sure it's fair to call the treatment of the 13 Colonies by the British administration oppressive. If anything it was neglectful.

  • (starts humming the 'Last of the Mohicans' theme)

  • 5:26 NO, the bill did not say that. It said that the Constitution was influenced by the Iroquois Confederacy. Not directly modeled, influenced.
    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/100/hconres331/text
    True, the Iroquois were an amazing civilization – for sure one of the most underrated in history classrooms. But we have to be careful not to let our biases affect our reporting of history.
    There is still lots of debate about the influence the Iroquois had on the Constitution, and it's kind of irresponsible to make unsubstantiated claims just because it makes us feel good.

  • 😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • Yea, not buying it. They kept them upstairs?!?!

    No.

    No!

    NO!!!

  • The United States was not founded on the principles of the Iroquois. That was not a nation that Thomas Jefferson John Adams and others considered when forming this country. It is founded off of the Hebrew Bible, Jewish law and Viking democracy, as well as failed governments from the past and the Roman Republic

  • Anyone who visits Liverpool NY or Syracuse NY can get an amazing wealth of knowledge on this subject… I grew up there

  • The story of how the 5 regions were united reminds me of Avatar: The Last Airbender but in reverse.
    And then everything changed when…one guy said"hey guys lets stop fighting"

  • I still remember back in Freshman year of high school during my Ancient World History class. We had been given an assignment to pick a culture from history, do research, and determine whether or not they counted as a civilization/society (I forget the exact criteria but I remember a written language was one of them). I concluded that the Iroquois definitely counted, my teacher disagreed. Still think to this day that he was in the wrong on that one.

  • "so what did you guys do to solve fights?"

    Iroqouis: "stuck em in a field and had them play lacrosse for a few days"

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