Gold Coast IVF January 2020 Fertility Meet Up Nutrition and Mindset to Maximize Pregnancy


Steven Palter: I want to tell
you a bit about sort of what we’re doing really quickly. We, you know, we, we try to make
this is a very special place where we know who you are. And
we have a relationship with you through your whole fertility
journey journey. As a result, we have what we call our family
reunion every year. We have all the people who’ve had babies,
they come back, and unlike some places where you’ve kind of
finished and done we probably had close to 600 people this
year came to it and celebrated and Some of those kids are in
college now. And they come back with their parents. And some of
them are women who are just newly pregnant. And what
everyone said to us is, they feel a connection not just to
us, but to each other. And we started saying everyone is, you
know, there’s such amazing talent in this room and
expertise. What more could we do instead of like, it’s great that
we have this party every year. But what can we do to really
help people even more? So we had a series of focus groups we
talked to, you know, over 100 of our our success stories, and we
said, What would you like to do when you’re done? And sort of
unanimously what they all said is, I just want to give back to
the me 10 years ago, someone who’s starting and someone who’s
going through the process, I want to help them and support
them. Because I know so much now that I wish I knew that. And
when I started I didn’t even know the questions to ask. I was
too scared to ask them and now I know all this stuff. And so we
brainstorm. And together we came up with this idea. Our miracle
family network where we would take the people before that
don’t even know for sure what they’re going to do people in
the middle who are going through treatment and then the after the
people who’ve had success, and everyone come together to really
help each other. And so what we’ve been doing is we now have
these meetups each month, where we pick a topic. And we say, you
know, we’re going to do the medicine part, but there’s so
much that you can learn and on the internet years, endless
information, but the problem is like so much of it is garbage,
and you can’t sort it out. And then if you ask for help you got
some stranger Joe, you may know who they are, and you don’t know
what to ask. So it’s great to get the information there. But
people tend to feel more lost and more cut off than they used
to. So you can bring that to this setting, and have people
that really know what they’re doing and that you can trust.
And we can really sit through that information and five things
that you can do On your own that will help you be more successful
and more happier through the journey. That’s really the the
impetus behind us doing this whole process. And so it’s been
hugely successful. We’re so excited at how many people have
told us, it helps them. And what you have in the room is you’ll
see some people with a line under their name. And those are
our alumni, people who have been through the process, we’re here
to help and share wisdom. Other people are in the middle. We
have some people that are pregnant, we had about five
people get happy phone calls today. So some of them are off
celebrating that we’re going to come. And so they’re in every
stage last month, we had a patient that we were treating
from Africa, who was here with her husband sharing their
insight and sort of their really special journey. And so you’re
all have something really special to share. And what the
parents told us who’ve been through it is that having gone
through this journey, they were better parents, because they had
struggled to get where they were and they overcame something As a
result, when they face challenges later in life, they
were stronger and better as parents than had they not gone
through this. So this The idea is that this is kind of a hard
road to get through, but you will get through it and when
you’re successful at the end, we want to help ensure that you
come out better. It always that when you started so let me tell
you about sort of our expert panel. The the real idea here is
that we don’t think of it as a support group. Support Group
kind of implies that you’re broken and you’re like me to cry
on someone’s shoulder. And what we think of this more as the
concept of a mastermind so they have that in business they have
in marketing, they have it in and sort of every industry where
you find the experts, you share the wisdom and then together you
figure out the process. So this is our, our fertility
mastermind, and all of you are really like going to be
superheroes have fertility. So whether you’ve gone through if
you’ve gone through you already are and if you’re in the middle,
you’re going to be That person shortly. And so our panel
tonight is really kind of amazing people. This is KK
Seely, who is one of our success stories, who now works here and
organizes all of our our Patient Relations and outreach. So she
probably spoken to spoken to her a lot of you. And she helped us
brainstorm and organize this event and she’ll share sort of
her journey and she had been in the corporate world and as a mom
now and had her own journey, and Debbie Sweeney, another miracle
mom of ours, Debbie is another success story who’s been through
us who was in the corporate world and then made a transition
and now he’s doing health and nutrition coaching and has a
really big family now, how many Debbie Sweeny: eight Steven Palter: and, and was
through the process remarkable but also had to go through her
own journey through it. So what we’re gonna be talking about
tonight is how to maximize your health overall so you can
maximize your fertility. We’re going to talk about health and
nutrition, but also about mindset and how you think of a
health problem and get through it and not succumb to it. And so
we’re going to spend a little time now maybe 10 minutes and
have have our experts here tell you their story. Debbie, why
don’t you tell us sort of your story of how you got here, your
health struggles that you went through through fertility, and
how did you overcome it? Okay. Debbie Sweeny: I actually get to
this building. Well, I’m old enough that I remember the other
day. I had six children. And I was in
my mid to late 40s. And I wanted more. And I actually was
embarrassed to tell my ob gyn that I wanted more. In this day
and age, he wants more I wanted more. So I don’t know if you
remember this. The angels were Looking over me when I opened up
the Yellow Pages one day, and I found the world’s best fertility
doctor. That’s how I started with you. And not just the world’s best
fertility doctor, but the whole doctor and the staff and
everyone here that makes you so comfortable, which is part of
each of your success stories or will be. So knowing that Dr.
Palter was such a smart guy, and he would tell me, you’re not
helping yourself when you’re jogging or exercising two hours
a day. You’re causing inflammation, and this is just
not helping. But for me that that was my signature. This is
how I thought I released my stress and I would go out and
exercise probably more when we had some setbacks and it just
felt like forever until the next time you try again. So my answer
was I’m going to go out and run for two hours and come back, and
then get the munchies at eight o’clock and have a bag of chips
and then feel horrible and start the whole thing the next day. So
I decided that there has to be something to what he was saying.
I already had a master’s in health science. So I had a
little bit of idea. So I decided that I’m going to I believe it’s
finally going to listen took me a while and but I want to know
why I just I can’t just follow I need to know why. So I went back
to school, specifically with this mission of what does
exercise and the food you eat and the way we have to do with
fertility or does it have to do with fertility and what I found
out was it absolutely has to do with fertility and not just
fertility, it has to do with your whole life. So you have
your fertility and you have your baby and you need to be healthy
and full of energy and ready to raise this We’re children. And
nutrition is such a big part of it. After I took, I just kept
going down the rabbit hole and doing more and more and more.
And I realized that this information is not rocket
science. This is stuff that everyone should know. Everyone
should know, just to be healthy in general. Yes, you need it for
fertility. You need it for your whole life. And it’s not that
hard. It’s not something that’s unattainable. If you can
understand it, even in a very simple way, it’s easy to follow.
And I wanted to give that information back. Especially since I had been
sitting in this office and and knowing how everyone feels. Steven Palter: That’s, that’s
incredible. So you, you know, health and fitness can take both
sides. They mean there’s some people who exercise and run
marathons every day and take that to the extreme. And then
there’s people who never get up out of the chair and gain 510 15
2050 pounds. And so there’s metabolic effects of all
extremes. And a lot of health physicians, you know, all they
learn about nutrition is like, a couple hours in medical school
20 years ago, and it’s completely outdated. And so
Debbie’s going to talk a little bit later about sort of this
nutrition, the new nutritional ideas. If you take all the diets
that are successful, there’s things that are named a diet,
just the way you eat in your life. There are shared things
that are sort of universal principles, and that’s what
we’ll share with you later. Now kk, you’ve got another story
where you, you have an incredible mindset, you
struggled and you overcame your health, you know, the health
fertility issues, but you were never negative. You had this
amazing mindset. Sudden you were sort of laser focused on your
goal. And it’s really incredible. And not everybody
has that. And so tell us a bit about you know your story and
how you made it happen with your mindset because that’s the other
habits. One is what you eat, and to sort of how you get through
your health issue. Kristin Seely: So one
correction, I never looked negative, I certainly was scared
out of my pants. Just to give you a little background, I’m I
was a little late to the party. I didn’t start trying to get
pregnant until I mid to late 30s. And I was new. I had just
moved to Long Island and my ob gyn is like, you don’t need any
testing. I’m like, well, I’ve been trying for a while, and I’m
pushing it. No, you don’t need any testing fine. And it wasn’t
until I had a minor medical emergency with my ovaries that I
sent to the ER I’m like something is up and I went to a
different doctor and they’re like, you should get tested and
so I did. So it turns out that my fallopian tubes are totally
closed. So I had zero shot so I wasted two years. And so I was
very angry. My lack of taking initiative and just blind trust
and being like, okay, whatever you say, and thank God that OBG
sent me here, they give us two choices and actually came here
because I, my husband I liked the high tech aspect of
everything that we saw that he was teaching around the world it
was cutting edge that it was all of those things that appeal to
us. And like any good HR person walking in, I was like, okay,
there’s pictures of twins on the wall. Let’s start a file folder.
So color coded file folders. That’s so my three like attempts
to get control of the uncontrollable in terms of how
mindset up my mind operates is okay. color coded file folder
name, the project, we called it, this whole thing pumps it. The
more I came back, the more I fell in love with the staff. But
then as I was going through the process, the more I realized I
only want to do this once I think Yeah, let’s just do just
one time. And by the way, let’s do it too. Because I see this
one’s now I think I see value and I wanted this process once.
Then I was really excited about having twins because we had a
really great Star Wars birth announcement in our head
planning. So some of you seen it. Um, and I had also realized
that I was being career girl, I was talking a mile a minute, as
I usually do, I really needed to decompress and forced myself to
slow down. So while I was going through this process, i the only
thing I could control was myself and my point of view about it.
So I got massages, time and acupuncture and I hate yoga. I
was doing yoga, I hate meditation, sit still no, I was
doing meditation. I did everything I could to literally
tell myself to just shut up and calm down because I really was
committed to doing this once. I did not have great chances, but
I had a chance. And so creating spreadsheets of all the medicine
and that helped me keep control over what my part was. You know,
it may have been a feeble attempt, but that’s how it
works. And the other thing I did was build a team. I know that
when you go through this process, there’s many different
points of views about how you can do that. I obviously like to
talk about it. Other people obviously do not. Some people
share some people don’t. For me, what worked was to build a team
around me and I, I had to give up that I was an inconvenience
and people of asking for help. So I was like, you’re my
wellness committee, you need to tell me, you need to remind me
to eat healthy. You’re in my like, chill out committee. If
you see me like, going a mile a minute, and you’re gonna call me
up and say, Hey, K, what are you doing to calm yourself down? And
then I had just people around me and I have my husband is amazing
support. So people showed up the woodwork that I didn’t expect
when I left them. And one person said, Do you really want this
twins and then we were hearing the odds are not going to be
good. I only had three embryos. And that’s not gonna happen. And
somebody said, No, you’re You’ve been talking about twins for
about two months. So why don’t you just hang up a picture of
the Wonder Twins members and Gina. So I have a picture the
Wonder Twins like this is going to happen. And as it turns out,
we found out on the first round that we were very lucky that we
did get a positive pregnancy test. But when we came in,
there’s only one heartbeat. And we’re like, oh, he’s like, six,
we’re having twins. What is the matter with you? We’re like,
yes, but we’re happy. And then we’re leaving. And he said, my
husband said, certain chance he would find another heartbeat
next week. I’m like, just question and he’s like, slim to none.
Next week, we’re coming back for our blood tests. I’m like, we’re
gonna find another one. And they did his famous words or Oh, he
has a friend diagram. So I’m not saying I certainly not saying I
manifested that. But there’s two parts to this. There’s the
science part, which is all over here. And there’s like the
mindset part that you do have control over that. You kind of
have to Sometimes wrangle your instincts to the ground, so you
can just be calm and let it happen. So those are the things
I did that work for us. Steven Palter: So many of them
sorry. So, let me Let’s share some of the nutrition stuff now
and Debbie, why don’t you tell us about the nutritional
consulting that you’re doing and how diet and what you eat what
you put in your mouth affects your overall health. Debbie Sweeny: Well, it’s it’s a
cliche but you are what you eat. It’s it’s a little more than
what was talked about saying in the 50s or 60s but what you eat
does turn into your your cells and your hormones and the way
your body works. So I have a program that teaches people in a
way that’s very easy to understand so that you don’t
need to be a doctor doesn’t go into depth, but it shows you the
importance of clean food. So clean food would mean you go to
the supermarket, there’s not an ingredient list on it the
importance of digestion so that you’re actually getting that the
importance of fats. Fats is what makes up your
hormones. So, I run a five week program to
teach you about that because I could or I or anybody could tell
you, you need to do this and you need to do that. This is what
you should eat and, and that’s it. But if you don’t understand
why it’s going to be really hard to follow. So by giving you
knowledge, when you go to the grocery store, or like myself,
when it’s eight or nine o’clock at night and you want to have a
bag of something process, it’s absolutely horrible. You can
think back and say, Okay, I know I know what this is going to
inside my body, I never know what this is going to do to my,
to my energy to my fertility. And you can make a better
decision. Steven Palter: So what are some
of the the principal like the top three tips you’d give
someone who’s trying to work on their health, which could be
trying to get pregnant, you are pregnant and you want to be how
to be a lower risk healthy pregnancy or you’ve had your
baby and you’re a new Mom, what are the so the three things you
talk, you know, and we’ve talked to you talk about sugar. So what
is the your take on sugar? Debbie Sweeny: I would say,
rather than going to specific foods, although sugar is a big
one, you think about three things. Number one, what are you
putting in? Is it clean? Is it fresh? Is it alive? Does it have
nutrients, so what’s going to be out of that right off the bat,
sugar processed foods Trans fat foods. So what think about what
are you putting in? What is this doing for my body? Number two,
and sorry about the visual here. What’s coming out? Is my
digestion good? Am I actually getting the benefits of this
food? And my my bowel movement every day or my my letting my
body get toxins out. And number three, what am I creating inside
myself? Meaning when I eat or my on my in a frenzy mood, am I
stressed out? Do I get enough sleep? Do I exercise in a
correct amount that’s, that’s healthy. So what’s in what’s out
and what you create. Steven Palter: Great, great. So
we’ll talk a little bit at the end about sort of the medical
side of nutrition and fertility and what we know about that
part. Then. So for now, kk you talk to a lot of our patients
who are starting out, you’ve spoken to the people who are
walking through the door the first time. And you also speak
to a lot of the miracle moms at the reunion each year and the
people who are trying to help each other. So what is what have
you learned from the afters to share with the before about
mindset? is it part of success, how you think like, because
we’re doing shots, and we’re doing pills, and we’re doing
tests, and that’s it’s very clear, scientific medical part.
But how does your mindset affects success? Kristin Seely: I think the first
thing to get is that you actually have a mindset you
actually have a point of view about this process about this
offense about about everything. And whatever that point of view
is, whether it’s negative, whether it’s fear, whether it’s
excited. That’s going to color everything, and every all your
actions in your approach to this. So once you’ve done Get
clear on that you actually do have a point of view about this,
you can start to take responsibility for that and see
if it’s working. So what some of the work that I’ve done in the
past with leadership coaching and some of what I’ve gotten
from you guys, I tried to just call down to three basic things
to focus on and the first one is to be present. And what I mean
by that is to first understand that whatever got you here is in
the past, the loss, the pain, the journey, whatever it was, it
is part of the past. And like I said, when I came in, I was very
nervous and very angry and pretty bitter about that doctor
and about myself was having listened to him. And I really
had to let that go. And it wasn’t till my husband said,
Okay, so this does not look like we thought it would look like
and that’s okay, we’re just on a different journey, but we found
the guy like we’re here like, okay, so I can just let that go.
And once I did, I literally physically like felt myself
exhale, and I was like, something’s possible. Now.
Because before I was like this, and really nothing was getting
it. So that’s one thing, you know, be letting go of the past
letting go of whatever decisions it literally does not belong in
my future. And the other thing is worrying about the future
doesn’t help you either. This is not a unique concept didn’t
invent this. I’m sure you’ve heard this before. But when
you’re worried about what’s going to happen in the future,
particularly a repeated miscarriages, whatever, it’s
going to happen again. That’s not being present either, you
know, consider that worrying is a way of being right about
something. Just think about your mom for a second. See, just
yeah. So when you’re worrying, you’re also not present. So
you’re going to have to kind of give up both and it’s really a
struggle to be in the moment. But the good news is you get to
practice that because you’re going to need it when your
parents Absolutely. You know, worrying about are they gonna be
okay about this that never goes away. So this is an opportunity
to practice that. And also, being president requires
listening You haven’t listened before. So for example, as I’m
talking now, you know, you’re agreeing or disagreeing with me,
you’re like, Oh, I like her hair. What is she wearing? I
have what you have. And I’m like, What the hell is this is a
little warm in here? What does she say? Again? I don’t know.
That’s not what I’m saying. That’s what you’re saying about
what I’m saying. So, when you’re in this space, I think it would
serve you well to just really try to listen without that point
of view. Because I hear a lot of patients come in, they like to
talk Paul to tell me to do this. Or maybe I could do this or
maybe do this and then it’s like, he he was really clear.
But the reason you’re not hearing it is because your your
mind is like you’re hearing everything from the past and
everything in the future. So really try to work on your
listening and and catch that little voice when it’s talking
while somebody else is specifically about this stuff.
Um, the second thing in addition to being present is acceptance.
You know, that’s a tough one. That’s a confronting one because
we don’t necessarily want to accept that The way things are
right now but things are the way they are and that’s the way they
are and that’s it. Everything else is the story everything
else is that little voice in your head but it should be this
it should be this Wariner pregnant Why isn’t she this
she’s going crazy on the hormones he’s still supporting
whatever it is. It doesn’t matter it is what it is. And
once you accept that then you can forward then something as
possible and you know a way to towards his wife said yes, when
you hear that little voice, change the tape. Like if you’re
saying I’m broken, something is wrong every day all the time
you’re going to find a way to be right about that. Trust me so
why don’t you just practice listening to that little voice
and telling it to okay kk said to shut up so you’re out a new
one of i doing something about this and this is not forever
This is just temporary and it’s going to make me stronger so I
don’t like the way it looks and it’s uncomfortable and I don’t
like it. But I’m picture balloon a balloon is always expanding
and that’s how we grow and it’s never really comfortable. But
that’s it. So let’s get too heavy. But that’s that’s part of
the deal of acceptance and, and also I think what you resist
persists as anybody ever noticed that. If I, for example, I did not
realize when I was young, I made the decision as a kid, something
happened on the school bus and all of a sudden I decided that I
was unattractive. So I went through my whole life thinking
I’m they’re attractive, he’s too cute. I’m not gonna go out with
somebody, I don’t deserve that. I don’t deserve that. It was
until I realized that I made that decision that other things
showed up. So I was resisting everything, like really good for
me until I was clear about that. Guess who I met, my husband gets
remanded here. Turns out, I got out of my own way and it works
out. And the last thing is upsides being present acceptance
is really build your team. And I know there’s a lot of resistance
to that too, especially if you don’t want to share, but when
they it is, it means the world when somebody is supporting you,
even if it’s just hard to see how you are, you don’t have to
necessarily talk about every single thing. But when they’ll
be there when you’re high, and they’ll be there when you’re
low. So that that’s huge. And it’s helpful to have people on
your team who are not judging who are not trying to fix you
who are just going to listen. And that’s it. So those are my
three, three things. Steven Palter: Thank you. Thank
you. Amazing. So let me let me add a couple of insights related
to that. So we see a lot of people this idea when you talk
about the past and dwelling on it, we see a lot of people that
they’ve been hurt so much that they’re afraid to take the next
step. So we have people who say, Well, I can’t do that treatment
because what if it won’t work? And so instead of taking it like
the fear of something not working, stops them from taking
that step as well. If you don’t do something we know it’s
certainly not going to happen. So the first thing is here,
we’re really honest, we like will tell you what the odds are,
but if that’s not good, Work, there is virtually always
another path that will work. And part of it is figuring out which
way to get there. But you have to get past the past. And for
me, everything that hasn’t worked is a clue and a tool to
figure out how to make it work the next time. So none of that
is wasted. None of that is bad. You went somewhere else, and you
tried five times it worked great. Get me those records will
dissect it. And there’s an answer in there. And so, you
know, we go out and find information from all kinds of
fields that we try and bring back here and so that you made
me think of two people that I’ve worked with. One is Dan Sulliva
as a coach for entrepreneurs an business owners taught abou
6000 people in every industry And what he teaches is that yo
know, the past happened, and yo can decide what you bring fro
the past into the future. It’ not the past and what ha
happened and how you feel doe not dictate where your Going t
be, you take that, and you ca transform it into the tools o
success in the future. Each on of those can be a lesson. An
then through him, I met som people that do meditation and
you know, spiritual things. An they had this whole idea o
dwelling in the present. So yo can’t look to the future an
anticipate what’s going to fail And you can’t look to the pas
and say, that’s going to be m future. You have to dwel
really, like you said, B present and where you are. An
so there’s a great book. I thin du Lac Carol Dweck, critica
mindset, where they talked abou two different out and it was
teaching kids a lot of this wa about education, but also abou
people and corporations. An they said, there’s two ways yo
can see the world. You can hav what’s called a fixed mindset
which means you’re sort of bor one way and that’s it, you’r
smarter, you’re dumb, and you’r going to be successful. You’r
on that set. And the growt mindset says, well, instead o
saying you failed the test, yo don’t know this. You can’t d
math, you say, Great. Now yo see all the things That yo
weren’t good at. And that’ going to teach you what to focu
on and how to grow. And so in growth mindset, and they have
whole curriculum where they us this in colleges now, to hel
people achieve success an growth, the idea is that ther
isn’t like a zero sum where yo fail, you win. There’s, there’
opportunities in the world Everyone can win together. An
if you focus on a goal and yo work together, you can come ou
ahead. And so Dan taught us lik four kinds of mindset. It’s ho
you look at any situation on can be, there’s a failure, an
you’re a victim. So this thin happened to me and it can neve
work. And I’m angry at th world. And I see that ever
single day people come in lik that. That’s fine. That’s
normal reaction. But where d you go with it? If you’re s
angry that you can’t d something Next, you’re going t
live in that victim. One. Th next one is you’re pissed of
and frustrated. That’s a goo one. That’s where you say I’
really angry and I’m upset. Bu I’m gonna, I want to d
something I don’t know what t do, I’m going to get help an
and I’m going to get to th other side. So the difference i
one person gives up and th other is taking action. Th
third one is you’re kind o successful, and but you’re jus
going along. And then the las one is expansion and growt
where you say, I’m always goin to look to what I can do better
And those are those sort o fault for mindset. So with us
we kind of try to take peopl and say, Look at where you are
And together, we’re going t make a plan and it’s going t
have ups and downs, but there’ going to be a path and voic
those frustrations, but alway focus on moving ahead. So that’
sort of my take on your mindse for Debbie I want to share a bi
about the the medical side o nutrition and fertility what w
know so I mean, so it’ interesting, there’s there’s tw
extremes there’s the people wh are too overweight and there’
too thin can both caus reproductive effects and A lo
of it is the too thin we’d sa think of the caveman. And i
you’re being chased by a sabe toothed tiger, I had a talk wit
someone like this today, she wa a two hour a day, seven day
week exerciser. You know, zer body fat control of everythin
very healthy outwardly. But i you’re a caveman and you’re
there’s no food and you’r starving and you’re running fro
the saber toothed tiger, you body’s going to shut down an
not try to reproduce that figh or flight. Living is a hug
stress on your body. At th other extreme, obesity is wors
in America now than it’s eve been. So the latest statistic
were that it’s like 40 to 50% o the population now i
overweight. And what’s change and what’s sort of universa
between all you know, that w know is that the heavier yo
are, your reproductive outcome are lower. So for men, sper
function goes down for women outcomes of all treatments, g
down And we can overcome it, bu it’s not going to be ideal. Bu
then if you’re pregnant, yo have a higher risk of diabetes
and complications in pregnancy And then once you deliver, yo
can get sicker earlier in life And so what there’s a millio
ways of eating out there an lean diets, there’s the plan
based vegans and the ultra lo calorie and then there wa
Atkins high protein, and no there’s ketogenic and paleo an
carnivore. And so if you try an put them together, anything tha
gets you closer to your idea body weight will actually b
healthy. And anything that get you to move will be healthier
And so we know the outcomes wil be better as you get closer an
closer to that. What sort of th rage and nutrition now is a bi
backlash against what was don in the 50s 60s and 70s. Wher
people thought everything was w switch to the food pyramid The
low fat. So what happened wa they saw that people were havin
heart attacks. And they ha plaques in their arteries. An
they said, well, everything’ fat. And for a decade it wa
don’t eat fat, and eat grain and snack all day long. And wha
happened was since the 60s t today, people got heavier an
heavier and heavier, an diabetes has skyrocketed. S
what a lot of these diets shar in common is trying to as Debbi
said, Get rid of processed food It’s the processing that makes
lot of this really bad. So th more you can eat, whateve
version of the diet if you’r eating plants, vegetables an
meats that haven’t bee packaged, it’s going to b
healthier. Sugar really ha doesn’t need to be in your die
and has really no nutritiona value, and directly leads t
obesity and diabetes. So all o those diets, don’t focus o
eating sugar. So the more yo can cut that out, the better of
you are. And a lot of the fat that people eat now are ver
artificial and aren’t goo either. And so we can get int
these details with any of thes separately about sort of how yo
get rid of those things. Bu what we’ve been doing is we’v
started working with people o sort of how to modify what the
eat. And we have, you know, number of patients now who ar
diabetic that were told, lik you can never get better b
their primary care doctors tha were now off their insulin
They’re not diabetic anymore. W have two guys men that we talke
to that said, like, we’r worried about you not bein
alive for your kids. And they’v both lost more than 50 pounds b
changing how they eat. An there’s some really simpl
things that are out there o where you start. So there’s
lot of programs for this. mean, I myself, I was gettin
more and more unhealthy, and really got educated about this
And so in the last, I know eigh months, I’d lost 40 pounds. M
blood pressure went down 2 points, my blood sugar went dow
20 points that I’m healthie than I’ve been in like 20 years
And I work with a doctor wa coaching me on this who lost 15
pounds. So there’s like a whol science to this now that we kno
and if you can start by sort o move a little bit, eliminat
sugar and try to eat natura things. That’s the first ste
that everyone can kind of do. good sort of tidbits we can giv
you is if you’re completel sedentary and you don’t move a
all. The common wisdom was tha you have to do sort of 4
minutes on the treadmill fiv days a week. So the lates
cardiovascular data that’s ou there says that actually reall
high intensity short is better So if you don’t move at all, I’
been there It don’t if you try and say I
gotta go 45 minutes, seven days a week that’s almost impossible.
So what you do is you want to do something really Intense as hard
as you can, twice a day for a minute, a minute in the morning
and admit it night. So what that could be is jump squats, where
you kind of jump up, and then squat down, or jumping jacks,
push ups and setups, just something really simple like
that for 60 seconds. As hard as you can tell you can’t do it
anymore. do that twice a day. The newest data for for heart
health and metabolism is that if you can get up to like five
minutes twice a day, it’s better than 45 minutes for your health.
So if you say to someone you got to do 45 minutes, seven days a
week, that’s impossible. Could you do a minute twice a day?
Yeah. And you think that that’s worthless, but actually for
heart attack prevention and metabolism? that’s hugely it’s
all the data is now showing? it’s beneficial. On the diet
side, if you can, the idea that you have to eat all day long, is
really wrong and it makes it worse. So what we’re realizing
is that people eating carbs, it’s kind of it’s it’s really an
addiction. The x the same in your body as methamphetamine or
benzodiazepines or alcohol, it lights up the same part of the
body, you eat carbs, you eat them, when you’re stressed, then
your blood sugar shoots up, then it drops. And then you eat them
more, and you never get satiated. And then you’re told
you have to eat three meals a day and three snacks. So your
blood sugar is going up and down and you feel like crap. So the
sort of first principle that you can do is if you eliminate the
sugar as much as you can try and eat meats and vegetables, not
processed food, but eat three meals a day and eliminate the
snacks, but when you eat, eat until you’re not hungry anymore,
so you’re either eating or not eating. And that works
incredibly well to start helping your metabolism and this is the
basis of now there’s a whole trend with intermittent fasting
and there was a big article in the New England Journal of
Medicine that China eat or not eat is very healthy as opposed
to just grazing all day long. With the ketogenic, carnivore,
paleo Atkins, all these diets are focused on getting rid of
processed food, sugars and carbs. And so if you say, Well,
can I do 60 seconds of exercise twice a day, cut out sugar, any
three big meals and get rid of snacks, that if you made those
steps, that’s an enormous health benefit, that you would see a
change. And that’s what we had these people doing who’ve lost
massive amounts of weight and gotten really healthy. And even
if you don’t lose weight, if you’re not trying to lose
weight, you can get really healthy. I mean, I know there’s
one person I see in the audience here, who’s who’s been doing
this and lost a huge amount of weight. So there are we see
people now where they’re hitting weight cut offs, where they kick
in anesthesia for procedures, like it’s that bad. And we’ve
had a number of people who one of them is here who was above
the threshold who did these changes is now below the
threshold. And so you can do it. I mean, I’ve seen People, I’ve
been there work with a doctor who could, you know, was over
350 pounds and now looks like you know, a bodybuilder. So
it’s, it’s totally doable. And we’re what we’re interested in
doing is, if you guys are interested, we’re going to take
a survey Debbie has offered to run we want to partner with her
offer this nutritional program. So what’s so great about what
she does is it’s a it just breaks that cycle and gets you
started in a way where you get the support. And I think if you
could just say like a minute about the support about the
support side of like, you’re not just telling people what to eat. Debbie Sweeny: Yeah, I’m not
sitting there lecturing you. It’s a it’s a group. It’s it’s
done in a group, and there’s a reason for that. So it’s almost
like a roundtable we’re almost having a discussion. So we talk
back and forth. I’m going to the first week we’re going to talk
about what to take out of the pantry and get you ready. So
it’s Not just cold turkey, that’s really hard to just start
like that it gives you a little time to get used to the idea.
The second week, we’re going to talk all about digestion and the
importance of it and how these foods that that you’re eating,
and the foods that you’re taking out, are going to help your body
be able to use it to make even just right right down to the
proper cell membranes, that their integrity is, is the way
it should be that you have the right fats. I know we were all
fat phobic in the 80s and 90s. But there’s a big difference
between the McDonald’s french fries and olive oil or avocados.
Fat is good. Fat is not bad. It’s the right type of fat. Then
we’ll do another week on blood sugar and Dr. Palter talked
about The the three meals an intermittent fasting. But you
need to know a little bit about intermittent fasting, it’s not a
good thing to just say, Okay, I just, I’m just not going to eat
today Forget it, I this is how I’m gonna do I’m not going to
eat. So what’s going to happen with that if you are having a
lot of carbs, then you tell your body I’m not going to put in
anything and your biases Wait, I need the carbs because your
cloud kit, you’re burning kindling, and you want to get
yourself to build to burn a log, and the way you burn logs is by
burning fat. So first, you have to get your body ready in order
for intermittent fasting to work. So we’ll go through a
little bit about that. And also, that your body needs time to
rest and digest. So three meals is is good. If, if you’re
comfortable with two, that’s okay too. But you have to give
yourself at least 12 hours for rest and digest. So you have
your body’s in a sympathetic mode and a parasympathetic mode
in that period. sympathetic mode, you are repairing and
making new cells and that’s that’s at least 12 hours to let
your body do that. Otherwise you’re causing a stress and what
distress to stress with stress with food is going to disrupt
your digestive tract it’s going to open up this the walls gonna
let things go through this is the start of leaky gut, things
like that. And then the third week will go really, really
heavily into fats to really explain what is all this stuff
about tha and EPA and trans fats. And somebody said olive
oil was good and then somebody said canola was gonna wait a
minute. Now I hear canola is bad and And what about am I what’s
the smoke point stuff and so we’ll really dissect that and
make it really easy for you to understand and week one, you
Take a questionnaire that only you look at. So there’s no
judgment here at any point. Steven Palter: And it’s assumed
that you’re gonna have ups and downs, you’re Debbie Sweeny: gonna have ups
and downs. Okay? It’s gonna teach you how to deal with if
you’re in a situation where, for whatever reason, you had a
terrible day or you had a great day and you were at celebration
and you had a piece of cake. Well, you don’t want to eat that
piece of cake going, Oh my god, this is so bad. I’m ruining
everything. What did you get out of that piece of cake, you got
nothing out of that case, but you decided to eat it, enjoy
every bite of it, and start again the next day. It’s not
about beating yourself over the head. So you take this toxicity
questionnaire, and I’ll keep it for you. But I won’t look at it.
It’s yours. And then I’m going to give it back to you plus
another one on week five, and you will be amazed at the
difference in your score. Steven Palter: So what we’re
trying to figure out is will it last you guys European so now
you got sort of the overview of things you can do to take steps
and We’re going to try and see whether we can offer this
program here with Debbie just for anyone that wants it in the
office. Because I think it’s so important that people are so
confused about what to eat and something like this, what I love
about the way you do it is, it’s just so doable. It’s not like
this zero to 1000. It’s like steps that anyone can take. So I
think that’s really, really important. And related to what
you’re saying, like if you eat the piece of cake, the doctor I
was working with said to me, it’s like, eat the pizza ice
cream, okay, that’s not the bad thing. It’s what you do the next
day, because it’s like, you know, New Year’s Eve, you have
your resolution, and the New Year’s Day, you’re really good.
And then by the seventh, the gym is empty, because everyone went
there for one week. So it’s really like whatever you’re
doing with your treatment or your help. It’s not what you do
when you fall off or think you did it the wrong way. It’s what
you do the next day, because one day then becomes Okay, well,
it’s Friday, and I screwed up on Thursday. So I’ll just do it on
Saturday and Sunday. And then that becomes Well, it’s just
till the end of the month and then it’s like well, I’m
Couldn’t do this anyway, so I give up. So it’s expected that
whatever you do is going to have ups and downs. But it’s what you
do afterwards that really leads to the to the success. And it’s
the same way with the treatments. Like we see people
who do fertility treatments that maybe something isn’t going to
work. But it’s whether they give up or try again, that is often
the difference between failure and success. But it’s hard. I
mean, it, it hurts when you do something and it doesn’t work.
How do you get like back on that horse? And that’s where having
support and you know, there are people, some of the people who
are coming to these groups last time we’re exchanging phone
numbers, it’s like the bigger your network and you talked
about your support team, keep going and not give up and you
can lead to success. I mean, there’s people in the audience I
see here who have been on a long road and lead to success and it
can be there for you and even though it sometimes seems
unapproachable. So what we’re going to do is we have a will
get up and stretch while we half time we’re going to do an
exercise. But first we can take five minutes. And do you guys
have any questions just about, you know, about health and
nutrition in general about mindset, but anything that
Debbie KKR II was saying, feel free to ask and, or if you’re
experts on these things, some of you are really fit and healthy.
Some of you and I was talking about the exercise or nodding so
if you have any insight from your own personal experience,
you want to share with the group field Go right ahead. Audience Question: So I have a
question about Do you believe in fertility foods like there’s a
list pineapple and ally egg? Steven Palter: She believes
Yeah, no, it’s really great gray. Like I said, like if there
was an ingredient in pineapple cores, like the enzyme that
helped you get pregnant, oh my god, that thing would be handed
it would be a drug and they’d be selling it for $10,000. So all
those things that have been tried. We’ve tested them and
there’s just no evidence that it helps. So if you like
pineapples, eat a pie. You like eggs? You know, they’re healthy,
that’s fine. But there’s no one food that will make you fertile.
Or make you not. Debbie Sweeny: Can I add, sir?
Yeah, sometimes when you when you when you see articles like
that, and then somebody says I try to really worked. You might
think about what actually happened was by eating whole
fresh fruits like that you pushed out the bad because you
weren’t you’d have no room left for it because you ate all the
good stuff. So you pushed out the sugar and the processed
food. And did that help with the fertility? It might have Steven Palter: you Yeah, but
it’s like sometimes people get obsessed because they read an
article or there’s someone selling the supplement made from
something that that’s the key to it. And so it’s not that simple. Audience Question: It’s funny
with the pineapple because when I was going through the process,
my mom kept saying, I know somebody went to fertility she
kept saying he pineapple economy I’m like alright, slow I’m not
going to eat the telling that she kept insisting so I think it
was pretty good that you brought that up. True, and I didn’t need
it, but it still worked and I didn’t need it. So I guess my
great grandma was told beer state a beer and steak every
night. She was pregnant. That was a long time. Steven Palter: Okay, so what
will Yeah, Audience Question: running when
you’re pregnant? Steven Palter: Yeah. So exercise
while you’re pregnant was actually while you’re trying. So
when you’re trying exercises good. When you’re doing the
treatment, anything that’s going to enlarge your ovaries. If
you’re taking injections, we don’t want you doing high impact
stuff. Because it rattles the ovary they can twist but non
impact exercise is great. through pregnancy people can
exercise a lot. We try and keep it to sort of 80% of your
maximal heart rate but people who exercise through pregnancy
have lower rates of C section, lower rates of diabetes, lower
rates. High blood pressure and are healthier. So as long as
you’re not having complications, you can exercise through
pregnancy Unknown: and running. Steven Palter: Yeah, not to I
mean, not to an extreme intensity, but you can still run
an exercise. And people do do that. You know, so if you find
that you’re having premature labor contractions, and when you
get near the end, and you’re really big and as a mass, you
have to limit it, but it’s it’s exercises not bad as fearful to
do so. Audience Question: Yeah. In
terms of mindset, what about people that may have required
medication for anxiety or depression, you know, prior to
this experience? Steven Palter: Yes, I had a long
talk with someone about that today, a patient came in who was
afraid to try because she’d had those issues. So one thing we do
is we try to get people to the lowest dose of medication they
need so if you can’t get through the day, and your Going to be
dangerous or not able to function. There are medications
that can be safely used. There are some that are no risk, and
some that are extraordinarily low risk. So if you need an anti
anxiety or antidepressant to really make it through the day,
there are ones that have a safety profile that can be used
even through pregnancy. None of them really have been shown to
adversely affect getting pregnant. It’s just once you are
pregnant. So what we try to do is work with people to wean it
down to the lowest dose, but then if you can add support
systems, exercise meditation, you can often get those things
lower sometimes do without them, but you never want to stop
anything cold turkey, because then you can rebound and if you
really need it. You don’t want to have a crisis in pregnancy
and not beyond them. Audience Question: Yeah, what is
your thoughts on detox? Steven Palter: In what way from
herbal detox? Yeah, so I don’t know whether you met D detox
from opiates. We have a patient we have a patient who’s doing
that. I mean, we have a patient who is in opiate detox now,
who’s working on getting pregnant. So anything you can
imagine, we’ve seen, so the thing with the herbal detox is
is a lot of them are just sort of purge you like they cause
diarrhea. They kind of clean out the intestines, but they can
cause a lot of dehydration, and they can cause electrolyte and
mineral abnormalities. So if you’re, we wouldn’t want a woman
who’s trying to get pregnant with infertility treatment doing
those in terms of men who do them, you know, the health
benefit of these things. Some people do them and they feel
really good. You’ll often feel less bloated and slimmer because
you’ve just had massive diarrhea and you’re dehydrated. So if you
dehydrate yourself enough, you’ll feel that way. But most
of the medical studies that have been done on the detoxes have
shown that they’re probably not Very good for you for your
health. Okay, Debbie Sweeny: you need to think
about why you’re detoxing. Are you detoxing because of a one
time event or you Unknown: know, it’s not me Debbie Sweeny: saying I’m going
to do it a an herbal detox is how did you get to that point in
the first part place that you needed that Luca different Audience Question: others who
have had benefit of doing herbal talk. So it’s like, well, so
let’s try this. Why don’t you Debbie Sweeny: try this? But
it’s like a quick fix. It’s okay. It’s okay. But why did you
need it in the first place? You needed it? Probably because your
digestion was off. So how are we going to fix that? How we’re
going to fix your blood sugar, your digestion, you’re going to
fix it by the foods that you put in. So yes, you can do a detox.
But it’s it’s like a, it’s like a linear event and your life is
not like that. Steven Palter: Right? And a lot
of times, people feel better. It’s just sort of it’s having
immediate effect effect temporarily. Alright, so any any
other questions any any comments that you guys have so thank you
guys for your attention we hope you if you take even any of
these things all of them will be will be healthy and if you’re
here as we go through if you want to get more involved we we
have people we partner with for nutrition, health weight loss if
you want to do an intensive program and you need to lose 100
pounds as people we can refer you for that. If you just want
to exercise we can help you you know get in that route also. So
we’re going to do a little bit of a mindset exercise now first
of all get up and stretch and get some more snacks. We don’t
have cookies and cake tonight we have that we have the healthy
food this time. And so kicking Why don’t you tell us a little
bit we’re going to take like 15 minutes and do our exercise.
It’s a mindset exercise that really can we want to teach you
to break this cycle of negative thoughts. And that’s for
whatever you do, because when you’re going through treatment,
we tell you expect that there’s going to be ups and downs. So
the two things like people do is, if something bad what they
think is bad happens, well, first of all, it’s not always
bad. Yours may not like the number that’s on the screen or
in the portal, but don’t read into it. But your mind is going
to go crazy sometimes. And people get into this
catastrophic mindset where everything’s over pure
negativity, and then they are miserable, or they stop. So
we’re going to do an exercise to help you learn to when you have
that thought, how to have what’s a negative stopping thought of
what’s enabling positive thoughts, so you want to tell
them sort of what they’re what they’re going to do. Kristin Seely: So I’m just going
to get this so awesome. I just really want to thank you guys
for being here. today. I know you have kids at home and
newsletters and everything. So thank you and to everybody else
here. I probably need that. So, here’s our exercise. Um, Steven Palter: and after we
finish the exercise, we’re going to take like 15 minutes for at
the end, feel free to ask each other share insights. And if you
want to ask someone, someone who’s got a pink thing or any of
the three of us, if you’ve got questions about what it’s like
to go through certain things, feel free to ask. So kick it.
Yeah, tell us about our, our thought bubbles. Kristin Seely: Okay, so in a
minute we’ll we’ll get up and stretch and then we’ll sit down
with maybe like four or five people in a group try to grab
the alumni you can in your group. But on the left side, it
remember it was talking about that tape running in your head.
On the left side is a story that you have about any about your
fertility journey. about your health and nutrition, and if
your alumni about, let’s just say your parenting and make more
applicable. So this is the point of view that you have, for
example, the sentences I have in my head is I’m doing it wrong,
whatever it is, I’m doing it wrong. So that’s the thing I
have to fight over here, I want you to write two different
possible interpretation of that. So instead of telling yourself,
I’m doing it wrong, or I’m broken, or I’m a failure, or I’m
terrible, I’m never going to get this or is there going to work
for me, I’m going to enter the dialogue, whatever I’m failure,
which I here today, put two empowering things. And that’s
going to be your focus. So the first one, maybe write something
about health and nutrition, and the second to about your
fertility journey. Okay, so then we’ll break into groups. So
we’ll break into take a break, we’ll get into groups, everybody
will do their own, and then we’ll share in the group one of
those. And then at the end, we’ll come back together and
we’ll each group will tell one of them that made a list Steven Palter: right, so each
one of us is going to do three negatives and then for each
negative two That could be a positive way to see it. And then
you’ll share with your group sort of one negative and one
positive. And then the group, nominate someone who wants to
share publicly and say, this was one that we thought was really
insightful and then we’ll kind of talk around the room about
what do you do when you have that negative thought and how do
you get it to be positive

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