Game Theory: Handsome Jack, Monster or Misunderstood? (Borderlands 2/The Pre-Sequel!)

So, you wanna be a villain Listen up kiddo, lesson #237 If you want those heroes dead, let them STAY dead! DON’T be a Handsome Jack, who wants the heroes dead BUT owns the company that keeps reviving them (oops) That’s no good, sonny! So, when in doubt, remember: DON’T BE A HANDSOME JACK! *TV off *GT Intro Hello, Internet! Welcome to Game Theory, where our only goal in life is to one day own a horse… made of diamonds… and name it Buttstallion! Need I say more? Yes? Well, if you got that reference …Or happen to read the title of this video… Then you obviously know today’s episode is about Borderlands! The game that’s like Diablo, Fallout, and Old West all got thrown into a blender, and then that blender got launched into space! …And then happened to get cel-shaded too… Somehow… I dunno… In the game, you play as a Vault Hunter Which is basically a lawless mercenary and treasure hunter Like, say, if the kids from Goonies grew up, were thrown into a blender, and then launched into space- y’know? Let’s stop with the ‘blenders and space’ things for a minute. And while the first game served mainly to introduce you to the world and all it’s silly little quirks A.K.A Claptrap, A.K.A best video game robot since MICK from Museum Madness (This guy is a BALLAAAAH) *Airhorns* It’s really the second game where the story comes into its own Thanks in large part to one man, myth, and monster: The villain known as Handsome Jack And Holy Geez! Even though he’s a new addition to the weekly GVA meetings -Game Villains Anonymous- He’s already made quite an impression, making the shortlist for one of the best video game evil-doers of all time, and it’s pretty obvious as to why Unlike other video game villains, whose actions seem unmotivated or who appear briefly at the beginning only to disappear for the rest of the game Jack is always with you throughout your trek in Borderlands. On the radio, constantly telling you about everything from his new pet- the aforementioned Buttstallion: “Buttstallion! Say hello!” To the time he scooped out a guys eyes with a spoon and watched him bump blindly into walls. This guy is awful, amoral, but also hilarious and human Unlike most other game villains he’s got a clear personality I mean he offers to pay you to kill yourself, and if you do he ACTUALLY pays you But then, Jack has quieter moments, you kill his girlfriend and you shut him up for once, He’s stunned, at a loss for words And he gets REALLY touchy if you mention his wife, I mean like, choke-level touchy “I’m STRANGLING Mr. Morin for bringing up my wife.” “Choked? Mr. Morin?” “No, no, Jimmy, choking is something you do when you eat too fast, as I’m CRUSHING Mr. Morin’s windpipe with my watch chain, what I’m doing is actually referred to as strangling.” Uh- Sorry, strangulation-level touchy. But the question I wanna ask today is this: Is Jack TRULY the villain of these games? Borderlands 2 and Borderlands the pre-sequel I mean, they certainly make him out to be that way, AND you just heard me list a few of the MANY awful things he certainly makes it clear that he’s done throughout his life But, it’s time we truly got to know the man behind the mask UGH! Ugh, is that really what his face looks like!? Ugh, he’s SOO hideous…ly misunderstood is clearly what I was going to say… Let’s look at the facts, and, fair warning, there be lots of spoilers ahead! When we first meet Handsome Jack in Borderlands 2, he’s a trillionaire who’s successfully murdered his way up to the top position of the powerful Hyperion Corporation, then, declared himself dictator of the planet Pandora. The first thing we see him do is try to murder you and your little cel-shaded vault hunter friends Not to mention, he’s also enslaved his own daughter Angel, and aims to open a vault which contains The Warrior, an intelligent superweapon capable of leveling planets Okay, so obviously not a nice guy, why would I EVER think that he could possibly be the hero of the story? Well, it’s because he told me himself, he starts the game with this line: “You’re bandits, you’re the bad guys, and I am the goddamn hero.” And then again, he repeats it at the end of the game: “You are a bandit, and I am the goddamn hero!” And sure, he could just be saying these things, but it prompted me to dig a bit deeper, and I was SHOCKED by what I found. Before he got his real face mysteriously ruined, before he was a megalomaniac out to conquer planets, we know Jack spent some time living in the care of his Grandmother. In the mission ‘To Grandmother’s House We Go’ from Borderlands 2, Jack contacts you in a state of panic, explaining that he needs someone to ‘check on his Grandmother’s safety for him.’ You get to the house, and Grandma is, unfortunately, dead at the hand of bandits. Kill the bandits, and over the radio, you start to hear Jack laughing, he confesses that he hired the brutes to kill grandma. Why? Well, obviously the fact that he’s a lunatic must be part of it, right? But, look a bit closer… On grandma’s bed, you find a weapon, ‘Grandma’s buzz-axe’ A pretty gnarly weapon for a 70 year old grandma to wield for her protection, right? Well, think again! ‘Grandma’s Buzz-axe’ wasn’t just for her protection. Read the description and you see that it was, quote: ‘A disciplinary weapon used by Handsome Jack’s grandmother. About as painful as it looks. That looks to me like a classic case of child abuse. According to a 2005 study of serial killers, 36% had been physically abused as a child. And 50% had been psychologically abused. And it goes beyond just serial killers, there is evidence linking child abuse to other developmental stunting of the brain, according to studies done by everyone from the National Academy of Sciences to, physical abuse at the hands of a parental figure can render victims prone to a number of psychological issues. Everything from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder to Depression to what Handsome Jack ACTUALLY has, Borderline Personality Disorder And I’m not saying that Jack has Borderline Personality Disorder just because the game happens to be called Borderlands -Though that is a REALLY cool coincidence- No, I’m saying it because his behaviors check against the symptoms listed in the DSM-5, The go-to resource for all your self-diagnostic needs. In order to have Borderline Personality Disorder a patient needs a repeating pattern of five of the following list of nine symptoms. Spoiler alert, Jack is rockin’ seven! Let’s take ’em one at a time One: A pattern of intense and stormy relationships with family and loved ones Ha! Uhh, yeah. See also: Grandma. Or his daughter who he happened to enslave. Two: Suicidal thoughts. Eh, maybe not so much, skip that one Three: Chronic feelings of emptiness and boredom Duh! He bought a HORSE MADE OF DIAMONDS AND NAMED IT BUTTSTALLION. Need I say more? Four: Intense and highly changeable moods Absolutely! For just one example watch him go from zero to strangulation with just the mere mention of his wife. “I’m STRANGLING Mr. Morin for bringing up my wife.” Number five: Inappropriate, intense anger or problems controlling anger. See also; point four “I’m STRANGLING” Six: Having stress-related paranoid thoughts. Ehhh, not really, that’s the other one we can skip. Seven: Impulsive and often dangerous behaviors. Such as Spending Sprees, Unsafe Sex, Substance Abuse, Recklessness, and Binge Eating. Uhh, Buttstallion with her reviving this thing and eating sucky pretzels. “*Chewing* Hey! How- Ah these pretzels suck.” So to that one I’d say: Check-a-roonie! Eight: Extreme reactions to abandonment, whether real, or perceived. Oh-ho yeah, his hatred of all Vault Hunters definitely relates back to this, but we’ll get there in a minute. And finally, number nine: Distorted and unstable self-image or sense of self. Uhh, hello, have you SEEN his face? He has a fake face on top of his real one. Uhh, yeah, I’d say we have this one covered. So somebody call Dick Van Dyke ‘cuz this murderer has been diagnosed. Mid-nineties humor, ladies and gentlemen! Man, I still can’t get over the fact that the main character of Borderlands has BORDERLINE Personality Disorder. Next thing ya know I’ll start talking about how the desert wasteland of Pandora is symbolic of his psychological torment… It’s not. What I WILL start talking about though is that we’re still far away from excusing his crimes, and Buzz Lightyears away from naming him ‘The Hero’ of the story. But y’know, these scripts are typically three and a half pages long, and we’re currently only at the bottom of page two, so… There’s time. Because here’s the thing, So far, all the evidence has been drawn from Borderlands 2 But last year, Gearbox and 2K released ‘Borderlands The Pre-Sequel,’ a game in which you play through Handsome Jack’s origin story, back to a simpler time, when Handsome Jack was merely: Cute-enough-for-a-One-Night-Stand-but-definitely-not-hot-enough-for-boyfriend-material Jack And guess what? Once again we’re faced with a game where someone starts by calling Jack a hero, and this time, it’s not just him, talking about himself! “One day I received a job offer from a low-level Hyperion programmer.” “And what did you find?” “A hero.” Maybe there is something to this whole hero business after all The game takes place BEFORE Borderlands 2 Pre-Sequel style like Five Nights At Freddy’s 3 Oh, I just wanted to see your reaction to that. Five Nights at Freddy’s 3 is CLEARLY not a prequel, I just wanted to see people FREAK OUT in the comments that that might be included in the final theory. TROLLIN’ The game’s main plot has you teaming up with Jack- Pre-mask- to stop a giant space laser from blowing up the moon Elpis, thus saving millions of lives in the process You heard that correctly, Jack’s goal in this game is SAVING lives It’s a mantra he repeats throughout the game, too! Wanting to save the day, apologizing for people getting shot at, admitting he doesn’t like killing! Near the beginning of the game, he goes so far as to let someone who betrayed him live! Only to have that mercy betrayed AGAIN as the guy tries to shoot Jack in the back! Gun jams and Jack blows the guy away, but seriously, does this sound like the behavior of the black-hearted villain we supposedly see in Borderlands 2? NOPE. So what’s the difference? What’s changed? Well, for one thing, betrayal. We already mentioned that Jack was abused as a child by his grandmother, a family member, someone you would inherently expect to trust But the Pre-Sequel shows that she’s only the first. NO ONE stays true to Jack. The Mayoriff, the guy we already mentioned, worked for Jack before the events of game, but when Jack comes and needs his help, the guy betrays him, and when confronted, betrays him again by trying to shoot him in the back Then there’s Roland, Lilith, and Jack’s ex-girlfriend Moxxi. Throughout the game, they work alongside you on your quest to save the moon, but during the endgame, betray Jack, trying to kill him in an explosion. Jack, betrayed by family, coworkers, friends, and even a romantic partner. And throughout the game, you see it wearing on him psychologically During one of the final Boss Fights, when your character expresses that you guys could just press on without finishing the fight, Jack says, ‘let your enemies live, and they’ll shoot you in the back!’ What started as a guy who was watching out for his team on their shared quest to save millions of lives has started to break down, into an unloved man, betrayed over and over again to the point that he can no longer trust anyone! And the last betrayal happens at the very end of the game when Lilith, again, someone he once considered part of the team, punches a relic in the middle of it sending a bunch of knowledge into Jack’s brain. The relic bursts, stops the knowledge transfer, and permanently sears a brand onto his face. The final betrayal. And this prompts ‘Handsome Jack’ to be born out of this newfound quest for vengeance. As your character says in the game: “And that is when the hero who saved us on Helios died.” But did he really? This brings us back to his motivations throughout Borderlands 2, Jack’s professed goal is to bring peace to the planet of Pandora. At the very end of the game, as he’s dying, he speaks about the wasted opportunity, how summoning the world-killing Warrior was his attempt to restore order, eliminating the dangerous creatures and lawless bandits plaguing this land and honestly… He’s not wrong, Pandora is a dangerous wasteland of warring factions, surrounded by an unforgiving desert and horrifically deadly creatures, maybe Jack’s right, maybe it DOES need order rather than being an every-man-for-themselves-survival-of-the-fittest-gun-fest. And honestly, what are the alternatives here? Chaos? Murder? Disorder? That’s the way it’s been running up to this point. Are we, as the player, truly the heroes of this story? Or are we just actively fighting the progress of this planet? I mean, Vault Hunters are basically Grave Robbers, stealing treasures from hidden caches. Is Jack right in saying we’re not the heroes? I mean think about it, if the Vault Hunters are indeed the heroes of the story, then that means Lilith and Moxxi, the ones you team up with throughout the game, are the good guys. But look at what they do, in betraying Jack they not only tried to blow him up but also the character you’re playing as, who is innocent of all these crimes! You would be a casualty of war! Then, at the end of the Pre-Sequel, after confessing your entire story and renouncing your affiliation with Jack, Lilith tells the firing squad to shoot you anyway! Despite all her partners telling her otherwise. Is this really the protagonist? At the beginning of Borderlands 2, Jack says he needs the Vault Hunters to die because he’s afraid of a bunch of greedy, psychopathic murderers getting access to these superweapons! And he’s kinda right about that. As Lilith and Moxxi prove themselves to be, they’re people who are greedy, in it for the profit, willing to backstab others as Jack knows from personal experience. If these monsters kept prisoner in the Vaults fall into the wrong hands it means mass death for the planet. For the universe. But Jack? Well, as we see at the end of the Pre-Sequel, he’s built the technology able to harness these creatures already. Controlling their powers. If these things must exist in the universe, it makes sense that Jack is the one to be doing the supervision. Not greedy bandits! He’s just doing his part, and honestly, that’s pretty darn heroic. And you know what makes it even MORE heroic and what makes me say his motives are pure? Remember that relic Lilith punched to scar Jack’s face? Well, it shows Jack the future. By scrolling slowly through the images flashing past, you see Jack witness cutscene moments that appear at the END of Borderlands 2. The subsequent game. As he says, he truly does ‘see it all.’ And a part of that is obviously seeing his own death in that moment. He’d just seen his future, and he knew his death was imminent. But he was so determined to see peace come to Pandora that he pursued the goal anyway. How’s that Dark Knight quote go? ‘You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain’? Jack is the embodiment of that mentality. A man with a noble goal of bringing order to a lawless planet, it’s just too bad that they didn’t want what he was providing. It’s a phrase we use a lot on Game Theory but ‘History is written by the victors’ In this case, it’s people like Lilith and Moxxi, who thought Jack to be the villain. But by playing through Borderlands 2 and the Pre-Sequel, we’re in a unique position, we get to see his actions, his rise, and his fall, and judge for ourselves objectively about this man. And the way I see it, Jack was just a misunderstood hero who needed a little bit of love. Jack, wherever you happen to be, Buttstallion says hello. But hey, that’s just a theory… A Game Theory! Thanks for watching! Welcome back to the SUPER AMAZING END CARD TOURNAMENT Where last time 60% of you said you prefer your games Indie, versus 40% who prefer triple-A. That said, it was on an episode about Indie games, so… SUPER CONCLUSIVE RESULTS Oh! And in other news, 96% of people that click the Subscribe button were happy with their decision! The other 4% must’ve been… Bots… or something… I dunno… This week I wanna see how well we did! So, you just heard the evidence, now it’s your turn to judge! Handsome Jack: Eye-scooping, Diamond horsed Villain, or abused, misunderstood hero? Click on one to choose, but regardless of which option you go with I think there’s one thing we can all agree on… This dude is hilarious! Then, get taken to the channel page and… Watch some more stuff Now if you’ll excuse me there’s something that’s been… Haunting me for the last couple weeks… Something I need to take care of…

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  • I honestly wish there was a way to save Jack. I physically can't beat Borderlands 2 because I don't want Jack to die.

  • Talk about mind blowing!!!

  • Vault hunters: guess I’ll die
    Jack: well yes, but actually no

  • Hey its true …
    Somone want kill voult hunter but nooo i lave at all map spawners

  • Who else watched this because of nostalgia

  • Its sort of a pinochet , a hero for a lot of people but a villain for others

  • the vault hunters are not heroes just people looking for loot or a challenge, but they are not really villains either

  • hero jack is a hero

  • I FEEL BAD FOR JACK😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • That paranoia and stress one also checks. Jack hardly trusts anyone, and had been betrayed quite alot in the pre-squel and gets stressed a lot as well.

  • I mean, Jack creates a city that you visit in Borderlands 2 to acquire his voice and at one of the kiosks Jack makes it pretty clear that if you say anything he doesn't like he will kill you. There's a lot of ridiculous and petty laws in his city that make him out to be anything but a hero.

  • but hey thats just a theory

  • Now after borderlands 3 came up and there's echo about his wife death… Now i know how he feels about his own daughter

  • Then what ending did I get! I kill claptrap 2.00

  • So Elpis being the key to the great vault, blowing it up it would have saved millions of lives

  • I played the pre-sequel BEFORE borderlands 2 and i felt sorry for jack, i really liked him in the pre-sequel, his decisions arent evil, it broke my heart erasing that AI but it had to be done, even after been fired he kept trying to save the people, but everyone that he trust betrays him, no wonder he becomes paranoic, and at the end a paranoic maniac.

  • Roland and Lilith betray him because of what he did to the scientists launching them into space. At that point they didn't think he can be trusted with a super laser.

  • Honestly Claptrap is more annoying than useful so I wouldnt call him the best video game robot, that spot alone belongs to Cayde-6

  • Your wrong, Jack didn't see himself die.
    That was the only thing he didn't see.

  • I loved the pretzel sentence it was just great

  • Handsome jack was right,there are bandits all over the galaxy now🙁

  • We… made him…. we did it wrong…

  • After playing Borderlands 3, Jack is honestly proven right. If Jack had won and civilized Pandora, than Borderlands 3 wouldn't even be happening, because the villains are people who are actively trying to take control of the Bandits of Pandora. We literally would not have fought the Calypso Twin's Bandit army at ALL if Jack had won, it's even possible they may not have even tried to take over the Great Vault at all if they didn't have that army.

  • Everyone forgets that he pays you to jump off a cliff, and acknowledges that you've died and respawned

  • I really havent played Borderlands but jack should not have been betrayed

  • Not sure why people think Jack is a well written character. Compare and contrast to Caesar from Fallout: New Vegas.

    Caesar is a man that, through decades of experience and research of history, has determined that the only way to rebuild the world is through a totalitarian regime that uses violent opposition on those that actively make the world worse (Nipton being a perfect example) and those whose cowardice stands in the way of their actions. Along with this, free labor to stimulate massive growth in a broken world, providing safety from outside forces. He does not enjoy slavery or death of any kind, but views these things as absolutes on the path to making the world what it once was, essentially reinstalling a Roman-esque government with the idea of abolishing slavery once infrastructure can be established.

    Handsome Jack is a total sociopath that digs people's eyes out with spoons purely for the fun of it. Any justification or supposed "positives" that come from these violent actions fall flat when you realize that Jack is motivated purely through self-interest and any good things that may come of it are coincidental, not intentional choices made by him. A consequence of this being that I have no sympathy for him as a character. People will justify this by saying " Well what about his damaged face? What about the betrayals?", to which I respond with the fact that his extreme change would have never happened if he wasn't always that. All those events serve as a lazy way to justify a lazy villian and nothing else. One does not simply become a sociopath if they weren't already motivated in that direction.

    My point being that Borderlands is a shooty looty game before everything else, and Fallout New Vegas is a focused narrative before everything else.

  • I find it to be incredibly fascinating that, for a channel which values narrative and lore in video games and dissects them to uncover hidden truths, you have never made a video of Fallout: New Vegas, a game that is better than Borderlands in almost every way. Could it be because Fallout isn't as popular and that this channel values revenue above all else? I think so.

  • and now we know that angel (his daughter) killed accidentaly his wife. So another sad and soulcrushing moment for jack. he locked angel away, so she cant hurt anyone anymore

  • matpat" but thats just a theory"
    me: ya… a theory thats 100 percent correct XD

  • hes murdered alot of people….LIKE ALOT OF PEOPLE. i dont know man

  • After this I think hes a misunderstood hero

  • I feel so bad for Jack… and I know he's a non-exist character but all characters are inspired from real life. Someone must've had a similar life of betrayal to create Jack. Character's like him cannot be just pulled from thin air

  • Handsome jack
    Is kinda Like Hades.
    (From Horizon Z Dawn)
    He wants to reset the world

  • God, Matpat, you're such a Hyperion shill.

  • Why did Lilith and Moxxi betray Jack, and how?

  • Did the presequel really come out after 2015?

  • I think he was abused

  • Handsome jack is where I got my funny side side note I can’t spell commeadien see

  • Did Jack ever call Pandora his home? I mean obviously it would be, but if he actually said it then when the song (Borderlands 2) says "no hero, to call home" it kinda hints at Jack being the hero even more.

  • W8 a minute, jack had sex with moxxi ??? WTF ?

  • Don't forget that Jack "enslaved" Angel for everyone else's protection. She's a siren with unstable powers that accidentally killed her mother—Jack's wife.

  • Yo wtf I have broder line personality order

  • If that is classic child abuse then what is the extreme cause a buzz axe seems a bit more uh brutal than the classic forms of child abuse

  • Claptrap I choose you

  • now you have to do borderlands 3

    so in borderlands 3, it's revealed that the warrior isn't a planet-busting-apocalypse-monster, but a planet-busting-apocalypse-monster-slayer. the warrior was made and used to help seal away the destroyer which threatened the whole damn universe.

  • I mean he killed bloodwing

  • hey mat pat you could get a theory of the symbol of the handsome jack is on the bandits

  • Well did he really see his death? Remember in tales from the borderlands he keeps saying he “can’t die, not possible, I’m handsome jack!”

  • He's not a nice guy,he's Handsome

  • Who misses angel? 😖😭😭 wish she could've stuck around!

  • Jack was also a sicko because i found an audio log with jack talking to helena pierce saying, " Whats your name?" "Pierce. Helena Pierce." "Oh please don't break my heart and say it's Missus Pierce!" "My husband died." Oh thats so sad……… AT LEAST YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN COMMON NOW!!!!!" "*lets out a bloodcurdling scream*" see what I mean?

  • Everyone thinks they're the hero of their own story
    Even with Borderlands 3 he's still the best
    And his A.I. could still exists

  • When u realize tale tale series is cannon and angel killed Jack's wife

  • I got deadpool vibes from that guy

  • Handsome jack was a hero but because of that stupid lilith he becomes the villain, i hate lilith

  • Just wanna point out the New-U stations aren’t canon.

    Still though, why didn’t Jack just launch a nuke out of the Hyperion Moonshot? Quick and pretty much guaranteed kill.

  • Can we get another video of jack since Tales of the borderlands further imo flushed out the character

  • Love the vid. Only problem is that you call Lilith a full on villain. She clearly is a good character throughout both of th stories, with a few misjudgements.

  • wait, there was a borderlands game theory

  • New u is not cannon

  • Yea but, what about the tales from the borderlands jack doesn’t really seem good.

    His plan is to make your character a puppet of sorts and he kills innocent people for no reason

  • I think its kind of ridiculous that the vault monster at the end of the game is said to be able to "Destroy entire planets" but you kill it in like 20 minutes by shooting regular guns at it.

  • Borderlands 3 gives more story to jack

  • To me Jack is a hero, and it’s not easily seen because as Jack said “Everyone’s the hero of their own story”. I don’t think I’m my mind being a hero necessarily means to be benevolent, merciful, and overall well rounded. Granted Jack does some horrible things as well but really look at it indepthly. But I will admit Jack is not entirely a Savior either. He’s more like an anti-hero. He does the wrong things for the right reasons. Pretty much everyone Jack has ever cared about betrayed him somehow. It’s unfortunate actually. Jack was just trying to do the right thing the right way for awhile. But hell let’s be honest. If everyone you cared about all of the sudden got up and betrayed you in such a condense manner would you be so easy to deal with or hell even overall good? Probably not. Jack did lose his mind after awhile, but his plans were still in good intentions. If you guys looked up the lore of Borderlands before you’ll know Pandora actually used to be beautiful, and peaceful. But just like anything good after while it will diminish. Bandits, outlaws, drugs, mutated animals, robots, gangsters absolutely infested the once beautiful planet. Jack wanted to use the warrior to bring an apocalypse to Pandora and rebuild it in his image. He didint want Bandits roaming pretty much every single part of the planet left and right. But that also means you the player. All the characters you play as are NOT good guys persay either. You just so happen to be part of what Jack hates most, and you also happen to be getting in his way consistently. It is just natural for him to go after you. But with all the people Jack has personally killed or ordered to have killed. Everyone of them for the most part did something to deserve it. Like his grandma. She used to beat him and abuse him when he was a kid. Honestly I’m sure his childhood didint help his shaping into what he later becomes.

    Now a big part about his daughter. Yes this can be seen in both ways just as equal. Yes what he did to his daughter pretty much keeping her captive and using her siren powers for the benefit of his plan. But it was necessary. Angel couldn’t control herself entirely. She was also still a kid, she didint see his plan in its most underlying way. She didint think what it was ultimately for. He was just wanting to kill an entire planet for nothing. No that just isint reasonable. Even if he was a total bad guy. When Angel killed her mom Jack knew she couldn’t be out in her own terms. He knew she was capable of some horrible things, to people who may not deserve it. Or even a danger to herself. Jack protected her from herself as well.

    Before I finish I will once again admit Jack is not entirely pure obviously. He is a bad guy to an extent. But I wouldn’t call him a straight up villain. I’m sure that there is points that could contradict my view, but ultimately I agree with his plan and I understand why he is the way he is. A lot of it is not so simple to see. Some is explicitly said, and other example are not said at all. You just see how it pieces together and makes sense. But on my end note. Jack was not a villain. But a flawed hero.

    P.S. this is not to say the vault hunters are evil. They are just on the other side of the story. Heroes in their own eyes for their own cause. But they are more for wealth and fortune, than planetary prosperity.

    R.I.P. Jack. One of the best Characters ever made for a video game.

  • 9:36
    Haha final theory for fnaf

  • And because of the release of Borderlands3 we now know why he took his daughter as prisoner because Angel killed his wife not saying that it was right but he was justified to do so

  • The new u stations aren't Canon because if they were then Roland wouldn't be dead

  • Borderlands 3 actually bolsters this idea kind of quite a bit.

    We find out he wasn't lying about Angel killing her mom. And the entire incident was incited by an attack by bandits. Bandits literally lead to the collapse of his entire family. It's no wonder he hates bandits enough to want to raze an entire planet of a bunch of rogue killers and replace it with a metropolis like Opportunity.

    Of course, he wanted to the dictator of the said metropolis, but that's neither here nor there. The Pre-Sequel does show that he's been essentially betrayed all his life in his attempt to just imbue a little order on Pandora, and save the lives of those on Elpis.

    Borderlands kind of went from just a story about mindless killing and adventure…to a story about how the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

  • "Hyperion: We're not the bad guys in this one!"

    The Vault Hunter slowly approached the fallen self-proclaimed hero and smile brightly.
    "Aw that's so tragic. My heart bleed for you, really it does. But here's the thing Jack, you've seem to forget what my profession is and before I send you to oblivion, allow me to remind you."
    Handsome Jack, wheezing in pain, felted a cool sensation on his forehead and realize it was the barrel of a gun.
    "On this day, on this hellish planet full of psychopaths and weirdo like Shooty Macface, in this blazing volcano which seem to be typical in most action movie, a vault hunter stand before you. NO ONE, be it a CEO of a mega corporation with grand delusion of being a hero or the lowly psychopath who only think of turning people into meat pizza, stand between me and my legendary loots. Anyone who does, well, you get the picture."
    The last thing Handsome Jack sawed before darkness embraced him was a exhausted, battered and bruised Vault Hunter drenched in blood smiling with no care in the world.
    "So if you don't mind, I would like to get started on sifting through the pile of loots and hoping the perfect gun drop. It'll be great if you shut up and die, thanks."
    A loud bang echoed throughout the volcano followed by silent.

  • I love the new intro but nostalgia is lost
    Keep the new intro it’s great

  • Doesn’t like killing okay as you strangle someone for mentioning your wife

  • I still think he is the bad guy cuz no hero murders inoccent men women and children

  • Huh, I thought this video was new, but then I noticed the old intro.
    Did Youtube recommend me something because Borderlands 3 came out?

  • So, I didn’t know much about borderlands, but I talk a lot like Jack, and that is my name. Coincidence?

  • After finishing borderlands 3 I just want to say that bitch if finally dead(not jack)

  • 6:30 heh the dsm-5 my dad had that book cause he was becoming a therapist. Nice to see it actually being reference somewhere.

  • The new u stations are non cannon

  • Handsome Jack is the absolute best villain ever. He's charming, ruthless, hilarious. With a past filled with abuse, betrayal and misfortune, we tend to feel sympathy for him. Enough so that you could almost overlook all the horrible things he's done. Scooping out someone's eyes, spacing his colleagues, overseeing horrible slag experiments on countless people. Who cares, right?

  • So slender is man and Myth?

  • Is no one gonna talk about how he put Tom nook in the category of unmotivated game villains

  • If nothing else, Lilith is a villain of the story. She unnecessarily causes Handsome Jack to exist, when everything was just about to be fine and all the bad guys up to that point in The Pre-Sequel have ALREADY BEEN DEFEATED. The entire group was so close to being not only on the winning side, but the right one. And they gave it up because they saw Jack devolving from a Hero into a badass, and mistook it for him becoming an outright villain. Instead of interfering and getting Jack proper help to overcome his demons, they decide he needs to die and they end up losing The Relic of Knowledge and The Warrior for their efforts. Finally, instead of confronting that in the 3rd game, you're now playing ANOTHER group of randos caught in the cross-fire and forced to take Lilith's side due to the massive amount of bandits out for the heads of all The Crimson Raiders. I hope she's the final boss.

  • Good guy

  • “The road to hell is paved with good intentions, right? And the one's you love litter the roadside.”
    -Handsome Jack

  • Gearbox is 2k

  • This actually has MUCH more evidence in the side quest in Borderlands 3(sorry couldn’t remember the name of side quest) anyway, in the side quest you see how much Jack cared for his daughter and his wife, he was worried that she was a siren because she would be at great risk; and when she got taken by some bandits, she accidentally activated a turret and killed Jack’s wife and the bandits. You can hear the horror and despair in Jack’s voice at seeing his dead wife. To make sure it doesn’t happen again, he has to loc angel up so she doesn’t get threatened, taken, or hurst anyone else. Jack at least tries to make it better by connecting her to the Hyperion New-U system, but absolute power corrupts absolutely, so she was then forced to charge the vault key and she was more of a prisoner than a girl who was trying to be protected by her father.

    So yeah, Jack actually has numerous reasons for being mad about family, he was beaten from his grandmother, he lost his wife to his daughter, and he went mad with power to try and fill that hole in his life.

    So…as MANY people have already said….this isn’t a theory, it’s just a fact.

  • Yuppo, every parent totally has a BUZZ AXE that they use on their kids. A classic!

  • none of them are good guys

  • To be honest i kinda wish the added jack back to borderlands 3 and not in gun form or a one off mission just jack as the main person again villan or hero

  • 1:27 Sad Wheatley noises

  • can we just point out MatPAt's use of a Danganronpa-based sprite edit for Jack in the thumbnail-

  • Can't wait for mat to hear about borderlands 3

  • Hello Tales from the borderlands!

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